One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??
The stronger the stink, the harder my dink.
The solution? Flood Facebook with AI generated boomers and let the bot system implode and take facebook down with it.
The AI generated boomers are all commenting on political posts and telling us why lefties are wrong and global warming isn’t real.
Yes but we still don’t have ones that swoon over thirst traps repeatedly.
I ran into a Discord where the sole topic was running hot girl “AI influencers” on Instagram. Literally hundreds of thousands of people thirsted over them, and the operaters made real money.
Their systems were pretty sophisticated. The whole process is automated; LLMs write the posts and do sexy DMs, imagegen and videogen models and such do the sexy images and videos, controlnet keeps the look consistent-enough between media. LLM agents press all the buttons. I think there may have even been OnlyFans stuff.
So a single operator could run dozens of bots.
…It’s not hard for these models, either. DMs and short Insta posts are stupidly simple language, and media of sexy people in clothes, doing insta-style poses, probably makes up most of the image/video model training corpus.
I think there was some engagement farming with other bots, of course, but it would snowball and turn organic. Real Instagram users were thirsting over these bots.
…It got me thinking.
Is it really that different from a parasocial relationship with a “real” influencer?
I mean, functionally, its exactly the same. The users can’t even tell the difference.
I posit that the whole “thirst” influencer system was broken and exploitive to everyone involved, except Facebook.
It was fucked up to begin with.
AI just made it more obvious to onlookers. It destroyed the pretense that any of it was “real.”
What a lot of people fail to realize is that the whole industry is based on selling a fantasy. It’s no different then getting the girl friend experience from a prostitute. I don’t think there’s a meaningful difference between a real person and an AI in these industries.
IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.
IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.
+1. But I wonder how many know it’s an illusion.
I’m the wrong person to analyze this though, as I do not get why people engage in these services. Like, I get roleplaying, I’ve daydreamed or even written out long fantasies, but why would I (for example) pay for some girl to talk it out on the phone?
…Much less gawk at some influencer on Insta?
What’s the point?
I think the bigger issue is 65+ guys perving on girls young enough to be their daughters. Old guys who think they are still 25 and have game.
My father has been very insistent on having a health insurance plan that could have a spouse added because he is sure one of the thirst traps he sends gift cards to is going to marry him. My sister had to have a conversation with him about not looking at nudes on his phone while visiting his grandkids.
Ugh. The only consolation my sister and I have is that at least no actual young women are being harassed by him.
Oh man, he is prime romance scam bait.
They should totally Logans run anyone over 30.
And it’ll happen to you, too!
Maybe, but I wouldn’t be leaving those comments for real women, either. E-girls existed long before AI did. What do these guys think is going to happen? Are these the dudes who go to strip clubs and think that the dancer is going to go home with them?
Cast a wide net mentality
We have to start adopting more accurate terminology for demographics. Most boomers are in their 70s and 80s. The ‘boomer’ shortcut has outlived it’s usefulness. I’m a ‘young’ boomer at 68.
I saw a lot of these so-called boomers at J6. Except that they were in their 30s and 40s. Boomers ain’t scaling walls no more.
Yeah, there’s people other than boomers, there’s gen Jones, Gen X, millennials and Gen Z zoomers
Boomers think supernatural creatures control our fate. Why would we expect them to be capable of determining fiction from reality?
I’d like to see your ‘science’ explain where the missing socks go in the dryer.
The gnomes take them. Duhh. It’s scientifically proven.
Not a boomer but I follow a thirst trap guy on youtube who I was always sure was AI (like fully artificial, not based on a real person), but then he posted a really messy video (like imperfect skin, not fully shredded, awful lighting, messy room that didn’t look glamorous) and now I’m no longer sure, like there’s a chance it’s a real guy recording himself then asking AI to make him look flawless. Which means I may have been thirsting over a human all this time, ugh.
The point is I knew AI could improve real videos or generate realistic videos from scratch, but I assumed it was still easy to tell one from the other. Well, turns out either AI is now able to generate messy videos from scratch (that truly look low quality/effort) or it’s able to make real videos look like they were made from scratch. So I genuinely don’t trust myself to distinguish what’s AI anymore. And I’m around 30, so I don’t even have the age excuse.
Which means I may have been thirsting over a human all this time, ugh.
So thirsting over AI is your preference? Eww
I already read the response to this but to come back.
Does it matter if the object of desire is “real”
People have performed fantasy for ages, this does not need to be about sex. Just because you know superheroes aren’t real doesn’t mean you cant enjoy the movie or low and behold have a wet dream of superman flying holding you in his arms.
People have been thirsting over lara crofts 3d boobs, i am not even gonna get started on japan.
Just that it was entirely expected and probably can be considered normal behaviour for (some) primates including humans to be mesmerised by a digital dream.
Does it matter if the object of desire is “real”
If it doesn’t matter to you, then it doesn’t matter.
Just because you know superheroes aren’t real doesn’t mean you cant enjoy the movie or low and behold have a wet dream of superman flying holding you in his arms.
Lo* and behold. The phrase is “lo and behold” lol
Imagination is good. Using your imagination is good. That isn’t what we’re talking about here. What we’re talking about is AI-generated porn, essentially.
Once I’m aware that something is AI-generated, it becomes gross and weird. That’s how I feel, but I acknowledge that you might not feel that way.
People have been thirsting over lara crofts 3d boobs, i am not even gonna get started on japan.
Was not expecting random racism.
Was not expecting random racism.
I think we might have a miscommunication here, I don’t think i am disrespectful to anyone here.
lol no I was joking, but I did subscribe to this guy specifically because I was curious about the concept, like I read the comments and I can’t tell if people are role playing or they actually think it’s a real guy (and as I said, it might actually be and I was the actual fool).
Dude, AI content is now getting past me. Like all the tells are gone. Audio is clear, what they’re saying makes sense, video doesn’t have any strange artifacts. The only real tell is if the content is too extreme in some form or fashion.
Truth in journalism laws need to come back. We’re moving toward a future where we can only trust what we see or hear irl. I need a way that i can trust a source.
Sounds better than splitting the internet into three and forcing biometric verifications. Although that may end up happening for different reasons, aka a human only internet, a human & AI internet and a mainly AI only internet.
Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?
They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.
A trick Reddit was pioneering all the way back in the late '00s. Drive engagement by using bots to fake engagement.
AI/bots creating content. AI/bots leaving comments.
Wait I’ve heard about this… 😟
Our university’s IT team actually pushed for this last year. AI to generate assignments… students get their own AI to do the assignments… then back to faculty AI to grade andngive feedback… all built into Blackboard and Canvas…
Facebook is bots ONLY. So none of this matters.
in a sense… I know some people like this
Me too, more than one.
Sure me too, but the boomer I know who fall for this are too cooked to comment about them. They only consume, not participate.
I have never understood the need to comment on porn of any kind.
You probably also guessed that the stripper isn’t actually attracted to you.
He’s not???
Sorry you had to find out this way.
But the escort actually likes me, right?
Yes. That’s different.
Instructions unclear. My ford escort definitely hates me
I’d hate you too if you were trying to clog up my tailpipe.
I made her a loaf of sourdough bread and now I know her real name and home address. Did I mess up?
Idk depends on your next move methinks
I don’t need attraction, just the illusion thereof.
Our neighbor the beat cop always said: “in the end, all they want is the right kind of friction.”
Maybe that’s what’s happening here too, the illusion of a pretty lady
I dont need my porn to be this realistic. I want some fantasy to.
I’ve seen some funny comments, but the ones that are like “ur so hot” are baffling.
Also the “if you had to pick one” ones. Like it’s a public forum and those are real people. Like I get the whole fantasy and thinking about which one you are most attracted to, but any kind of bonding with others around porn (that isn’t just having sex while watching porn) just seems pathetic to me.
I used to think about pornstar id marry when I was like 11, they have kid me discoverng porn for the first time logic
It’s a parasocial dopamine hit. It’s like commenting on a Twitch stream. There’s a fantasy that they’ll notice and reply to you, and suddenly you’ll be having a conversation with a famous attractive person.
Sometimes, I think it’s like people yelling at someone in a horror movie “he’s right behind you!”
It prompts real feelings and reactions and they just have to let them out.
Interesting take, thanks for sharing. No sarcasm.
Ah so the same people who buy lottery tickets.
Because the posts try to make it sound like they’re private messages to you, and men reply in a thread with hundreds of others all leaving the same comment.
I commented on one porn post here on Lemmy where the person was trying to look way too young. I commented in a reply to another comment that was saying it’s kind of disgusting and wrong, because the intent is clear that they were trying to at least appear like a child. It doesn’t really matter if they’re actually of-age. It’s like anime with the thousand year old dragon gir thing. If you’re trying to create something erotic/pornographic while appearing like a child, that content doesn’t need to exist.
That is I think the only time I’ve posted on porn.
Identifying the performer to find more of their material, or more of the same genre
This wouldn’t be necessary if more of the Internet used AO3 tagging and category systems
Ive been begging us to adopt booru-style tagging for videos for decades at this point.
(For the uninitiated, this would mean i could search something like “Brunette curly_hair -horse_penis score:>500” and get every video known to man with a curly haired brunette who does not interact with a horse penis and at least 500 people liked the video)
We never would have gotten such gems as “give her the dick” without them
I’ve posted a few asking why they decided a macro shot of the dude’s butthole was what we wanted to see.
Speak for yourself.
Also:
I’d love to do case studies on the real people at the end of these things.
Like, who is scrolling Facebook and Insta to thirst over algorithmic posts, yet is somehow unaware of the generative explosion?
Do they know, and just don’t care? Do they think they could tell if an image is fake, or is it true unawareness?
What do they do in real life? What are their relationships like?
How does this system work.
I think it’s easy to assume they’re all basement dwellers or whatever, but one could stereotype Lemmy the same way, and that’s just not true.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, such studies must exist. I don’t want to fall into the “I didn’t even try to search for the answer” thing.
But all this has happened so fast. And clearly the studies aren’t being acted on…
My father is retired, my sister and I have carefully avoided describing AI to him because he would for sure get AI psychosis if he started conversing with a chat bot, his relationships are all unhealthy. My sister and I have made him agree to let us control his retirement income in exchange for bailing him out of a particularly financially devastating one of the many scams he fell for in retirement. We give him a weekly allowance for groceries and prescriptions and gift cards to give to thirst traps.
He is absolutely unaware they are fake, at a core identity level of refusal to grapple with reality. Some combination of he always had some susceptibility to this kind of thing, lost his only close trusted reality check person when he and my mom split up after over twenty years, and aging-related cognitive impairment.
gift cards to give to thirst traps.
What does he use specifically, though? Facebook, Instagram? OF?
On his phone, right?
I apologize if that’s a weird question, but I’m… scientifically curious. I know lots of folks are susceptible, but I’m interested in the systems that suck folks like your father in.
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I wonder, like others here, whether or not the same people posting the AI generated images aren’t also posting responses to make it look as if the images are convincing people they are real… those “life-like” response posts can make the images themselves more convincing, to some people.
Oh you don’t have to wonder. It is shilling and is just about as old as time.
Good bot
🧩 Why whatever are you talking about—no clankers here! just us fellow skinbags!
Warning: AI assistants can make mistakes. AI assistants may generate inaccurate or harmful content.
I’ve been chewing out boomers I know who read off ai summaries. They don’t even notice the ai summary label.
Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.
Plenty of the young generation are dumb as fuck as well. Trump didn’t win just by getting the boomer vote.
Plenty of morons out there from all walks of life.
No, only other groups are stupid, but not my group! /s
Kinda wishin I knew what a thirst trap was…
Good-looking person, usually dressed and/or posing provocatively. Often includes engagement-bait-type caption.
A thirst trap is specifically attraction as bait
Thanks, Ive literally never heard this term till today
Someone is “thirsty” for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence “trap”.
The “woman” is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it’s almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.
Where lions ambush gazelles when they go to the water hole
Where lions ambush gazelles when they go to the water hole
Ah, see this is the explanation I needed
A sexually suggestive picture
That’s the Lead Poisioned and Proud of it! unit.
I’d like to believe that most of the dumb stuff you see posted online is by bots trying to draw suckers to their echo chambers.
Unfortunately, I’ve met too many of the idiots in real life, they’re definitely not all bots.
Yes, but the line of thinking originates there, and they were programmed to be more hateful and stupid than they ever would have been in a pre-zuck era.
Programming people to be hateful and stupid goes waaaaaay back before Zuck and Xitter. The Spanish-American War is a pretty solid example, but there are so many others.
Yeah but they couldn’t reach people on a 24/7 basis back then. It is different now because of technology.
It is different, in lots of ways. “Back then” there were a lot more captive audiences, people who had no access to any other sources of information. So, while we’re in 24/7 saturation, we also have the option to “switch the channel”
Unfortunately, once somebody has decided what they want to hear, they can “switch the channel” until they find one that reinforces whatever that may be, from “The Earth is Flat” onward… Still, “The Truth is Out There” and you can access more of it, if you really want to / know how to, than ever before.
My dad listens to AI generated stories. I still don’t know if he realizes they are Fictional AI stories, or if this is his way of killing time by this instead of listening to audio books. I guess audiobooks take commitment
