Justin Bieber and BTS
The Beatles are alright.
They just sound boring to younger people because they were so influential, their work got incorporated into all of pop music.
I don’t personally hate them but my college roommate did because he thought they were boring.
Even if you don’t grasp the context of the times, it’s insane to call them “boring” unless they never listened past “A Hard Days Night” or “Help!”
Even those are only “boring” because they were so groundbreaking and influential
Justin Bieber. He can play like 5 instruments incredibly well. He didn’t handle fame very well and they kinda forced him to be what he is.
Lars Ulrich of Metallica is I think the most hated metal musician today, with the Napster case and his recent performances which are way too snare-heavy if you ask me (some would use the word “lazy”).
But the large majority of the metal scene acts as if he was the worst drummer ever, which is obviously not the case. If you go and listen to Metallica’s 80s and early 90s stuff, including bootlegs of live performances, this drummer is more than capable, but he also invented a lot of fills and patterns that came to be used prominently by others, like Mike Portnoy.
So I’m not saying this in defense of the guy - don’t know him personally - but that’s a blatant case of people not listening with their ears if you ask me…
Nickelback hate was pretty bad but got better I feel. Animals is a banger.
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Moby. Play is a great album and I play that shit at least once a year.
There’s a fun heavyweights podcast episode about Moby’s childhood friend who lent him the Folkways album boxed set, which Moby used to make Play, and never gave it back :p
Reminds me of when Bob Dylan was young and starting out, he was invited to a DJs house that had a bunch of hard to find albums and stole them, which basically shaped his taste in music.
Currently Imagine Dragons. But I remember when Nickleback also was the butt of many jokes despite not being a terrible band.
There’s hate for imagine dragons? Or is it just the same Nickelback “ok, but not exciting” hate?
Since people are fairly familiar with Western artists, I’d like to mention Orange Range, an Okinawan Rock/Hop Hop band that was huge in the 2000s in Japan.
Some of you might know them because they did a bunch of anime/drama OPs, ads, and even did the official World Cup support song for team Japan (a huuuuge feat for a bunch of kids from Okinawa), but they were joking around how they still music from famous artists during an interview, and the haters just chewed them up. I personally like their music and their “stealing,” is more like “parodying,” imo.
Smash Mouth wound up getting overplayed with “All Star”, but their debut Fush Yu Mang is excellent. Way better than you’d expect, and it’s worth a listen if just for their first radio hit, “Walkin On The Sun”.
That album definitely doesn’t get enough credit. It’s got some surprisingly heavy-hitting songs. Nervous in the Alley? The Fonz? Let’s Rock?
It’s crazy to me how many commercials used Walking on the Sun for the “So don’t delay, act now, supplies are running out” line, considering the broader context of the song.
I was definitely too young to understand most of those songs as a kid.
Walkin On The Sun is actually kind of based if you listen to the lyrics.
TBh I loved Astro Lounge (the album that All Star is on). The rest of the album is quite good despite the wearing out of its most famous track.
I soured on it pretty quick only due to the ubiquity of “All Star”, but I really should revisit that album. Even that song isn’t bad, it just got played to death.
That album is really great! Road Man has a great tune.
Probably Nickelback. I’m no fan, but they seem to get the most hate of anyone just for being mediocre.
and like, they’re not even that bad
Foo Fighters, for some reason, are fucking loved, and yet if you actually listen to their albums, they’re just… meh
they got a few good songs and a lot of things I never want to hear again. and that’s coming from someone whose favourite band was them for a very long time. not to mention they sound like shit live
I did a studio session with them about 20 years ago, when they were still pretty popular and before they were widely considered to be a joke, but I was not a fan. When the studio I was working for called me to do the session, my wife said, “Watch - they will end up being really nice guys and you will end up liking them more because of it.” In reality, they were arrogant dickheads, and I hated them all the more ever since.
Really? When i worked with them, they were all really nice guys. Surprised to hear that.
People at the height of their own popularity tend to be dicks. My mom organized some event with Neil degrasse Tyson during his hay day and said he was pretty insufferable.
He uhh always has been and still is as far as I’m aware. He talks down to everyone, even the camera. And him tearing apart movies was the most obnoxious thing. We know Neil, we know.
He’s somehow one of the most pseudointellectual people alive despite legitimately being an intellectual.
When I heard him talk about his relationship with Carl Sagan and how he was one of the very few people that were willing to invest time and energy in him as a black man in STEM at the time he made a little more sense to me. I feel like having to fight for it has probably made him a lil crispy around the edges.
Well, knowing they’re all assholes helps me not feel bad for all the hate they get.
i understand that nickelback is low hanging fruit, but limp bizkit is right there
Oh please, Limp Bizkit only did it for the nookie.
Come on…
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody hate on Limp Bizkit like I’ve heard them hate on Nickelback.
At least LB had some personality, and more than one chord progression
Yeah. When Limp Bizkit had their crap album, they just disappeared. It was also around the time that Nu Metal was dying, so the end was swift.
Nickelback died a lot more slowly.
I dont love LB but something about them hits just right for the gym. LB were popular but they werent sellouts. Even if you hated them.
Nickelback had the chops to really rock, but instead settled into a top 40 safe role and cashed the check.
I unironically love the music of Limp Bizkit, but Fred Durst seems like a shitty person in many ways.
That was really what gave everyone the ick. But I defy anybody to say they can’t name at least 2 songs of theirs they liked. My mom liked chocolate starfish so much when I was listening to it that she went out and bought her own copy.
I can 100% say that.
Same, not that I hate them specifically but I have a skill to completely ignore artists I don’t care about. Bunch of my friends were big fans but me I can’t even tell them apart from Linkin park. Like, who sang “numb” ?
I guess you can never be wrong about anything if you just think someone who says something you don’t want to hear is lying…?
Just because I don’t believe you doesn’t mean I care one way or the other.
Funny enough, Fred famously flushed a cutout of the lead singer of Nickelback on stage.
I really enjoy Limb Bizkit’s music. It’s “just” the vocals that suck imo
I liked their music. It’s mindless, like the musical version of reality TV, but it was fun.
It’s really more the generation that came up thinking Nickleback (and post grunge bands in general) was peak hard rock/grunge/punk or even edgy that’s to blame. Nickelback themselves are fine, there’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting to have a wide audience for your pop rock band but some semblance of hardness in your sound.
Hating them is a meme I guess. I don’t mind them.
I think the whole hating on Nickelback started with people who thought Nickelback was the best band in the world. They’re like the most average band in the world. They’re not bad, but they aren’t particularly good either.
I agree. They have some solid songs, especially the ones with lyrics dealing with more serious subject matter. But they’re just not amazing either.
They had a good song recently “she keeps me up”.
There’s nothing of theirs that I like and I think they’re mediocre at best, but I agree. The amount of hate is totally unjustified.
I read somewhere once that their agent would book them at any festival that would accept them. That lead to them getting booed a lot where they didn’t match the rest of the lineup. People began to anticipate them and became a heel type character to avid concert goers.
For me it’s “Photograph.” Such an aggressively sappy and mediocre song. Every time I hear it, it reminds me of an essay I would have written on the bus on the way to school in 6th grade.
I kind of like “Never Again”, it’s a bit heavy-handed but it’s got crunchy guitar and the message is good, don’t put up with abusive shit.
That’s why I like it, it’s funny to me. Even funnier after the memes like look at this graph
But seriously, what the hell IS on Joey’s head?
I decided to look it up and it’s a champagne chiller polished really well, looks like the Stanley cup
Comedy Central destroyed Nickleback. There was a comedy special or show, I don’t remember. Anyway, they promoted the show with a clip from a stand-up bit that was at Nickleback’s expense. I you watched The Daily Show, or South Park, you would have seen that ad a hundred times. After that, liking Nickleback was an embarrassment.
What follows is my bad recollection of the joke.
People say that music can incite violence and I think that’s true because every time I listen to Nickleback I want to hurt… Nickleback.
I remember that, and this is accurate. Thing is, Brian Poesehn is famously a hard core heavy metal fan, and seems to judgementally hate anything but what he personally likes, so Nickelback got taken down by a guy with questionable taste.
I barely remember that… Christ…that seems so long ago.
Brian posehn. The geologist from Big bang theory.
I don’t mind their one song. But that’s the thing, they only have one song (they all sound the same).
Imagine Dragons. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is:
They picked up hate for being marketed like they’re some kind of super hard rock, even though they’re not. But their music is good for the genre it is. The lead singer was raised Mormon, but is now an activist for LGBT youth.
I’ve got to disagree with this one. Imagine Dragons was synthesized in a lab to be as corporate sounding as possible. The lead singer especially is grating. It’s exactly the singing style that Ai would come up with. That’s not a random comment, I know because old people show me shitty Ai songs on a regular basis and they sound like Imagine Dragons.
That thunder song was legitimately terrible.
Cutthroat is tge worst aong ever recorded.
I didnt know who that was… Now I hate Imagine Dragons.
I think it was ACDC, and there’s a drinking game that goes with it
i think they picked up the hate for being played everywhere and a lot of their songs sound the same. Interesting lore on the lead singer, that does make me like them more
I always thought it was because they essentially pioneered the “rock music for commercials” genre
I don’t like them because there’s no singer, just a guy screaming in an auto tune cranked to 10.
there’s no autotune tho
I can guarantee with as corporate and overproduced as that shit is they 100% use autotune. When you do it right you can’t tell. I use it in my home studio even, most songs use it across all genres.
It’s difficult to autotune screaming and sound that good. As a Windmill scene fan, the problem with Imagine Dragons is not the vocals (the lead has awesome technical abilities); it’s the lack of a point.
what on earth does any of this mean?
what is a Windmill scene and what do you mean by lack of a pint? like a pint of beer? they would be better if they were drunk?
I swear I ninja-edited it to “point”. “Windmill scene” you can search up; it’s not too easy to describe. Some call it “crank wave”? Some call it art punk.
I did some research and it looks like they do on some and don’t on others which is about as milquetoast as I’d expect from them
Could you elaborate on which songs they use autotune on? Other than whatever “Thunder” is.
Hanson. Their curse was that Mmmbop became THE hit early in their career. Their later stuff is in fact alright and with a lot more skill involved than a single repeated hook.
“Lost Without Each Other” is a genuine bop. They’re a lot better than they get credit for.
I’ve met so many people who hate Meatloaf. I think Bat out of Hell is a top 10 album.
His name was Robert Paulson.
I don’t hate it, I just don’t get it. Rock boomers always ranked it pretty high. The album art looks like the most killer metal album ever. And then I drop the needle for the first time and it’s fuckin’ showtunes.
That makes sense, because the music is repurposed from a musical that Meat and Steinman were writing.
The songs are good. The person was a POS that I’m glad is gone. Sadly. So many musicians of that era are maga turds.
Yeah, but I’m talking about the music. If we only listened to music from good people we wouldn’t have much to choose from.
Following that logic, the Harry Potter universe is perfectly acceptable. Just ignore the raging transphobe that is JK.
Well, for one, she’s still alive
Exactly.
Back when I was a wedding DJ, I’d queue up Meatloaf when I had to take a shit
Makes sense, his songs are pretty long.
Meatloaf was a terrible human being, it’s hard to ignore that and like his music. I used to like that album before I knew though.
I don’t think being pro-Trump and then realising he was a sack of shit and then becoming anti-Trump necessarily counts as being a terrible human being.
His only other controversial stuff seems to be being a climate change denier and anti-vaxxer but I put that down to stupidity over any malice on his part.
Plus you can argue that Jim Steinman was a bigger part of Loafs music than Loaf himself.
What? What did the 'loaf do to anyone?
The amount of Rock stars that aren’t terrible humans probably wouldn’t fill two hands.
the acclaimed actor?
Well, I don’t know about acclaimed, but he did some acting. I liked him in Black Dog, but I think he wasn’t really acting in that one.
I think I only really know two Meatloaf songs, and I’m not particularly fond of either of them.
Oh, well because you know two songs I guess I’m just wrong.
That was a really strange way to interpret my comment. Sorry for trying to participate in the conversation.
Honestly, what were you thinking?
your wrong, because I know more then 2 of his songs and Bat out of Hell is lame. Even by 1970s standards.
So lame that it went 14 times platinum.
boomers and bad taste, the winning combo
Yeah, because only boomers have bad taste. 🙄
I like the song “do anything for love” because it is a core memory of my mama singing her heart out to it while we were driving to the beach in Clearwater. I was like 5 or 6.
I can close my eyes and see her now.
Boy, am I glad I’m moving my family back in with my ma. Being she got stage 4. Thank you for reminding me of this memory.
How long before we post bands we are suprised that nobody mentioned?
I’m sure “most hated” has already been covered, so I’ll go farther down the list and pick one that’s a little hated and IMHO more than “not bad”: Crash Test Dummies.
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm gets clowned on by people who remember it, but (1) it’s pretty good, and (2) CTD’s first three albums are full of super catchy folk-pop-rock with decent lyrics. Some of the third album, and then subsequent stuff gets deeper and deeper into Brad Roberts’ then-current interests and generally doesn’t grab me, but more power to him.
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm itself was undoubtedly picked to be sonically polarizing and grab more attention than some of the slightly less “Crash Test Dummyish” tracks.
I saw them at the Fillmore in mid 1999. They were great live.
But what really knocked me out was half way through the second set the singer (sorry don’t remember his name) walked up to the mic and said “this song has been in our heads all week and now we’re gonna put it in yours.”
…And proceeded to play a flawless cover of Hit Me Baby One More Time. The lead singer even did some of Brittny’s moves from the video.
I didn’t realize they were hated
Auto industry driven genocide
I’ve never listened to any of their songs besides mmm mmm mmm and I still love it so much. Its a defining part of the 90s for me
Honestly, I like CTD, but with just a few more songs, Superman’s Song, The Ghosts that Haunt Me, and Afternoons & Coffeespoons, you should probably have enough for a lifetime, LOL. Superman’s Song may even be vaguely familiar if you were reading comics in those days, as it came out not too long before the (in)famous Death of Superman arc.
