• tetris11@feddit.uk
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    I’ve literally just started calling my mum out on it. I tell her, “I was literally going to, but now I won’t out of spite” so that she knows not to do it and that I’m just as petty as her when it comes to being told to do something.

    It’s actually started to help

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      You’re detailing a tantrum you’ve thrown over not wanting to do chores and think you’ve won something over your mother?

      Who cooks in your house?

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        When I visit my mother in her house, she treats me as a child despite me being a grown adult by quite some many years.

        If there are dishes in the sink, I naturally go to rinse them off, that is, until she says something before I get there of “there are dishes in the sink and you’re not going to wash them?”

        It’s little things like that. I don’t know if it’s entirely conscious, or if it’s a control thing for her brought out by her own mother’s endless criticism of her every action, but it’s a hurtful thing where someone you love, thinks the worst of you for no reason. You can ignore it and breed silent resentment, or you can address it.

        I’ve started addressing it.

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          An implication where someone you love, thinks the worst of you for no reason.

          Since when is asking someone to do the dishes after they cooked you a meal at this level of resentment?

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            When you are diligent, and someone still feels the need to pester you about whatever, it feels harrasive. She doesn’t trust him to do it on his own. That is hurtful.

            Who cooked the meal has no impact on that.

            I think you are projecting issues in your own situation onto tetris11.

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            Depends on the tone, whether it’s an accusation of your general being. You know how parents can say things in a way that seem innocuous, but are used as a way to control or denigrate in some small way. You couldn’t name it as a child, but as an adult you know exactly what it is, and is the reason why you limit your visits to only so many hours.

            You still love them, they still love you. But it’s hard for them to shake off old behaviours.

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              I’m sincerely sorry that your relationship with your mother is so damaged. And I’m sorry that you’re stuck in petty tit for tat with her as a means to gain control. It sounds unhealthy and I hope it gets better for you.

              Aside from that, using something so communal as dishes to demonstrate this social interaction is wild to me. Dishes need to be done every single day. To not do a communal chore like that because of spite in an otherwise healthy household is absolutely unhealthy and breeding resentment.

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                Out of respect, I don’t quite think you understand how close my mother and I are. Me calling her out on her control tactics and expressing my feelings in response to it isn’t the start of a petty war. She laughs and nods. I laugh and nod too.

                It’s the start of self awareness in breaking a cycle, and she gets what I’m trying to do and respects it.

                Often she forgets, because old habits die hard, but it’s getting better

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                  It’s the words you chose to describe your relationship here with her that I’m picking up on.

                  “I was literally going to, but now I won’t out of spite”

                  Like this would be so deeply unsettling for me to hear from a family member after I’ve cooked for them. I would be so upset.

                  but it’s a hurtful thing where someone you love, thinks the worst of you for no reason.

                  You think your mom thinks the worst of you for no reason.

                  You know how parents can say things in a way that seem innocuous, but are used as a way to control or denigrate in some small way.

                  These statements made me react that way, it sounds so unhealthy and I am sorry your relationship with her is like this.

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                    No worries at all, my relationship with her is pretty good. I guess you have to know someone before you pass judgement on them. I was giving an instance of one of the few negative behaviours of hers. She has overwhelmingly many positive ones.

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                  I’m literally talking about the subject at hand. You’re not using that term correctly.

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        You are assuming like 10 layers of the relationship in this whole conversation.