• sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    That’s like asking why Scarlett Johansson doesn’t give martial arts lessons because she plays black widow.

    The skills that make porn look good and the skills that make you good at sex may be distantly related but any overlap is a coincidence.

    You’re better off learning how to make friends and build relationships with people.

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    Porn is missing a lot of things that are necessary for good sex - how often are you seeing lube or condoms?

    Beyond that - other than shallow plots, you get blow job, jack hammer vaginal, jack hammer anal. Moaning that is performative rather than out of genuine pleasure.

    I think a lot of young men are mislead by porn and peers into thinking there are magical Techniques ™ that make you a sex star, when the far more complicated reality is that you have to understand your partners body.

    For example, most people enjoy receiving oral sex. You might assume that giving oral to your partner in foreplay is a good thing.However, I cannot fucking stand receiving oral and it absolutely ruins sex for me, especially when I have communicated ahead of time that I do not want it. I actually want jackhammer and blow because that ties into my own mappings of sexual pleasure. This is not what the vast majority of people want nor what culture tells us to want, but likely neither are your particular sexual desires. The best sex comes from when you connect with what they want too.

    Good sex is about connecting with someone in a way such that your pleasure is tied up in making them feel pleasure but also knowing that your pleasure matters to them too. A complicated relationship ego death dance with the idea that your bodies are made to make each other cum, which is not the same as learning mechanical techniques like you would to master a claw game. This is not what porn can possibly depict or offer.

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    i dont think pornstars have meaningful relationships, if not superficial. they do they get into relationships but its usually with other pornstars, often times you hear them breakup almost always very shortly after getting together. because they are"open relationship or polyamarous. and some get into the porn business because they like having sex.

    its mostly acting, and they mostly choose hot, white , women in straigtht relationship, men are usually muscular, abs,tall, white. they know thier target audience both straight and same sex.

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    Probably a sexologist would be better for that than a pornstar, since porn is about looking good, not feeling good

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          They don’t need to be mutually exclusive.

          They aren’t exclusive, but they aren’t the same thing, so there’s no real confirmation that a pornstar knows more than your average woman on, enjoyable sex rather than looking like she enjoys it.

          Concept of Pornstars teaching satisfying sex is to me on par with WWE wrestlers teaching self defense classes. Sure some WWE wrestlers probably have actual training in that category. But there’s probably more people with just a focus on actual self defense fighting that could do the job better.

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          I didn’t say they were. I offered the fact that there are quite a few people out there that are both porn actors and sexologists.

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      No but having something inserted in you at a place that provides pleasure probably would make them pros

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        Porn stars rarely even have the opportunity for pleasure during filming.

        Men are taking penile injections to increase performance, having to stop and cut the video several times. Women are using numbing gels to handle filming the scenes without much pain. Everything is awkward to angle it proper for the camera.

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    Pornography is (typically) not just filming people having sex. It’s acting. The positions and sex acts chosen are ones that film well and are appealing to the target audience as fantasy, not ones that are necessarily the most pleasing. There is also no universally pleasing sex act.

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    For the same reason the stars of Grey’s Anatomy don’t teach at medical schools.

    Acting isn’t real.

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    Sex and porn are very different things. A lot of young men enter into sex imitating porn, and the results tend to be terrible.

    In reality good sex is more about communication and trust than about being able to pull of crazy stunts. And once you have a good connection with someone exploring stuff is part of the fun, not something you’d like to outsource to a professional.

    Of course sexologists can play an important role and people can take inspiration from wherrver, but it is really about something completely different. Porn does a lot of harm in general.

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    Okay. Uh. Relationships? Really?

    Let me clue you in: most people in porn do not have great long term relationships. Many don’t have them at all. I’ve known a few women IRL that were either in porn, or worked as escorts in one capacity or another. Their personal relationships tended to be volatile, at best, because it’s really hard to separate out the things you do as a professional from what you do personally, especially when they look almost exactly the same.

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    Let me introduce you to Nina Hartley

    She is a sex educator now and an all around kick-ass lady.

    Las Vegas Weekly has described Hartley as an “outspoken feminist, sex educator and advocate for sexual freedom” and “a guiding force for a generation of feminist porn stars”.[4] She has described herself both as a “classical liberal feminist”[38][39] and a democratic socialist.[32] Hartley began engaging in feminist activism in the 1980s.[40] She has said:

    “Based on my experience as a woman and a sexual being, and my understanding that I had the right to decide for myself what to do with my life – that’s what I understood to be feminist, to give everybody choices – I didn’t choose to be a mother but I chose this [porn] because it suits me.[41]”

    Hartley has also been involved in socialist activism[42] and has also been affiliated with the Adult Performer Advocacy Committee (APAC), a labor union founded in 2014 for pornographic film actors.[32]

    Hartley was elected to the board of the Free Speech Coalition in 1995,[43] and is a long-time board member of the Woodhull Freedom Foundation (founded in 2003).[44] She has made frequent appearances at academic conferences, workshops, and in the media to promote sex positivity.[45] She has given lectures at Dartmouth College, Harvard University, and the University of California.[46][44]

    In 2006, Hartley co-authored Nina Hartley’s Guide to Total Sex with her husband, Ira Levine. The book includes sections on sex toys, swinging, threesomes, dominance and submission, and erotic spanking.[14] Library Journal called the book a “well-written guide” that is “strong on both safe sex and a permissive approach”, saying Hartley “handles the material frankly, accurately, and with sensitivity”.[14]

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    These people are actors. I doubt they have more knowledge regarding (romantic) relationships. Also their way to orgasms are not necessarily genuine, the producers and performers are using tricks.

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      I doubt they have more knowledge regarding (romantic) relationships.

      They don’t live in a porn vacuum. They absolutely have relationships outside of their job.

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        They don’t live in a porn vacuum. They absolutely have relationships outside of their job.

        Yes, sure. I agree. But I doubt they do have more experience and/or knowledge in this field than the average person. Teachings how a relationship can improve are limited, because its quite unpredictable due to the mix of cultural, individual and social norms.

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          They have to navigate a lot more typical relationship deal breakers and may be in a better position to advise how to compromise in a relationship.

          I don’t think being a porn actor disqualifies them from giving relationship advice any more than anyone else’s job does.

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            They have to navigate a lot more typical relationship deal breakers and may be in a better position to advise how to compromise in a relationship.

            A lot? Some of them may be more or less famous and therefor a little different when in public, the reputation of the industry is rather bad, the actors and their relatives are subjected to shame, hate or similar. Also most of them have varying sex partners. If we put them on a list of deal breakes these are maybe one of the ones.

            On the other hand someone might worry more about other obstacles in a relationship like spend too much/little time together, lack of or bad communication, trust issues, to be an equal part when it comes to care, housework, finance or too much emotional, material dependence. These are way more common I think and if you are able to compromise regarding these “inside” things you have a solid base to handle the “outside” things more easily. The advice of a porn actor is only helpful if all parties agree that all possible conditions inside a relationship could be ranked and are being ranked without contradiction.

            I don’t think being a porn actor disqualifies them from giving relationship advice any more than anyone else’s job does.

            Neither do I. It feels like you think I value them less as a person than others. I do not. Do we have a misunderstanding here because of my grammar or another barrier related my english skills?

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              We’re having a discussion, I’m not being aggressive by having a slightly differing opinion.

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                Multiple people have now said you’re coming off aggressive and completely misunderstanding them. Maybe take the clue that you’re not just having a slightly different opinion and are in fact aggressively arguing something different from them

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                  Being blunt isn’t the same as being aggressive.

                  I don’t need to appease everyone by being overly sweet and cutesy with the info I bring into an otherwise neutral conversation.