She’s a right-wing demagogue (likely Thiel-funded) that whines about DEI, ‘cancel culture’, and ‘communism’ while lying about physics. That’s it.
She also got dunked on by six actual physicists, who debunked her rhetoric around how ‘physics is failing’ and how ‘Eric Weinstein is actually a super awesome physics guy’ pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oipI5TQ54tA
Speaking of Sabine, I unsubscribed from Alex O’Connor because he kept having pseudo science guests on and wasn’t being critical at all, just letting them yap. Gave me Rogan vibes but hosting Sabine was my last straw.
Or at least a whiff of Rogan, I’m pretty sensitive to any potential red flags these days even if he doesn’t ever fall off as hard as that. Glad someone else agrees, I haven’t looked in a year to know if he’s fallen out of online atheist graces or not.
I’ve seen concerns in comment sections in videos on other channels when he comes up in clips and seen a single video addressing some concerns about his direction, but nothing major to my knowledge.
im guessing the signs were there, when her video about giving up as a “scientist” because of her opinions, she was obfuscating the nature of why she dint become one.
Others can say it better than me, but her videos went from well-researched science education to takedowns of the scientific process itself, hybothesis, experiment, analysis, forming new hypotheses. And takedowns of scientist in general. Conspiracies like “they’re all trying to waste taxpayer money,” which did GREAT numbers on YouTube.
I enjoyed her early videos saying “String theory is too difficult to verify experimentally, offers too little in predictive power, and gets way too much funding compared to other areas like X Y Z.” That’s a fair opinion and a discussion where rational minds can support their argument, and even agree to disagree.
“Science is sick, academia is dying, the whole field is corrupt, you can’t trust scientists” is her vibe now. You can’t have good faith arguments in that framing.
I haven’t watched Sabine in ages. She has always been fringe… Often cringe.
Science is sick. At least in America… Academia is dying. The amount of people that use AI to cheat is ridiculous. Brain rot was literally word of the year…
People are getting stupider regardless of the subject matter. I think Korn wrote a song about that and how long ago was that?
Have you considered she’s farming for clicks and really doesn’t give a fuck?
Look how she’s been attacked over the years even when she was doing videos that you all really liked I was never a fan but to each their own. Scientific method can take many facets. And that’s the wonderful thing about science is that scientists disagree with each other. But ultimately we should rely upon experimentation and predictive power and falsifiability to determine what is science and what is not.
I like Gareth from See The Pattern. I don’t agree with it everything that guy says. But that’s kind of the point he explores various theories and that’s fun. I can’t say whether they’re right or wrong and I really don’t care cuz it’s presented well and it’s entertaining.
Coca-cola has notoriously spent buh-buh-buh-BILLIONS on nutritional research. They throw away the research that doesn’t suit the science that they WANT to be true and promote the research that tends to support it. An example of a disproved hypothesis that has been accepted due to their meddling is “calories in, calories out.”
Big bang theory. Hell, probably most of cosmology. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Our main theory was the brain fart of a Catholic priest and that’s now considered the “secular theory.” You can’t make this stuff up… Oh wait you can. From cosmic inflation to dark matter and dark energy it’s all bullshit I’m pretty sure.
Saturated fats bad. Dietary cholesterol bad. Eggs bad. Dairy bad. Red meat bad. And on and on ad nauseam. Nutritional science is all fucking bullshit pretty much, especially when people love to reduce (too absurdity) it to like is that one thing you got to do or the one thing you can’t do. People worried about salt when most animals will do things that could easily kill them just to get a little lick of salt.
Importance of breakfast? Whatever. Any meal you eat is breaking your fast. There’s no benefit to eating immediately after waking up.
How about the eight glasses of water a day that’s a bunch of bullshit.
And considering how much science is epidemiological and it’s just associations and no proof of causation but most people will lean on the causation anyway even if it’s reverse causation, right.
How about the serotonin deficiency cause of depression?
Does moderate alcohol consumption have any benefits whatsoever?
Are psychiatric diagnosis useful?
Just how important is the microbiome?
Using animal models in place of human models.
How about the replication crisis? How about that about half of all scientific articles are bullshit and many of them get it retracted?
How about the many interpretations of quantum mechanics? Which ones right which are wrong?
Big bang theory. Hell, probably most of cosmology. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Our main theory was the brain fart of a Catholic priest and that’s now considered the “secular theory.” You can’t make this stuff up… Oh wait you can. From cosmic inflation to dark matter and dark energy it’s all bullshit I’m pretty sure.
Take a fucking astronomy course dude, I dunno what else to tell you. Like… what do you think the scientific method actually is? Are you even aware of the concept or do you think people just make shit up and hope its real (we got lucky with airplanes and shit I guess)?
Aerodynamics is a hard, applied science. It’s highly testable and absolutely falsifiable.
Cosmology is a lot of bullshit. Which should not be conflated with astronomy. The big bang is a creation myth. Admittedly one I was taught in school and I guess maybe I kind of took it seriously for a little while but no not really. When you actually look into the history of it and you see all the bullshit and all the special tuning and fine-tuning that they do to try to make it work… And it still doesn’t work. Tensions abound. Catastrophes are another problem. I’m sure you’ve heard of the crisis in cosmology? Seems like come out with one of those at least once a month.
Once you actually delve into the subject matter you realize it’s a lot of interpretations a lot of frameworks that reinforce themselves. But their foundations are flimsy as air.
For instance some people believe in dark matter or dark energy. I don’t believe in cosmic inflation and I think we have a dark gravity problem where we don’t understand gravity but if you use a bad model for gravity then you get other aberrations, like the aforementioned dark whatever.
Take the CMB. Cosmic microwave background. Is that really seeing the edges of the observable universe? Some sort of big bang remnant? Or is it much more likely it’s a collective noise from here to there collectively and it has a lot more to do with the locality rather than some far off edge of the observable universe or big bang remnant. So that’s one bullshit base of the tower that’s the foundation. If you take that out the rest of it collapses.
Go to your local Community College and take an astronomy course. Please.
They have these things called ‘telescopes’ now, it’s amazing.
There is this thing called red shift that proves that celestial bodies are moving away…
Yeah you know what no sorry no. Not getting drawn into this shit with someone who clearly has no fucking concept of how science works (and is obnoxious about it).
You need to speak with someone who does this for a living. I’m not being dismissive, I truly hope that you do.
It’s like looking at a chimp with a revolver. How did they even get it? Who knows, but they’re definitely gonna hurt someone.
A hypothesis is not a religion, dude. People (other than I suppose lay people with weirdly religious ideas) don’t “believe in” dark matter or dark energy. These are fully falsifiable hypotheses just like Bernoulli’s principle (since you reference aerodynamics). Cosmology is fully falsifiable and hypotheses are overturned all the time. CMB was predicted to exist before it was found and matched predictions, based on observations that lead to the Hubble constant, etc. The history of cosmological theory is easily available for you, if you cared to learn about it.
Meanwhile, you ARE approaching these ideas religiously. You reject them because you “don’t believe in them.” That’s bonkers. You don’t need to accept or reject them on an emotional level. That’s not how any of this works.
I hope you’re just a smart kid goofing around and riffing, and not someone who actually believes their own bullshit.
Hell, dark matter isn’t even a hypothesis, it’s purely an observation! In that sense, you’re right that it’s not falsifiable, only interpretable. It is a reality like the temperature. We don’t hypothesize that it is 21C, we observe it. We DIRECTLY OBSERVE gravity that does not come from any known source; that’s “dark matter.” Likewise, we directly observe red shift and other effects of inflation. We call the unknown cause of those observations “dark energy.” Neither are a specific thing that people believe in, they are labels for the effects that we directly observe.
Casting that through some kind of quasi-religious lens and then attacking it as a crackpot beliefs is BIZARRE behavior.
Which hubble constant? Based on which methodology? You wanna explain the Hubble tension, dude?
I reject them based on the fact that they’re pseudoscience. The Big bang theory or as it’s called the lamda cold dark matter model makes a ton of predictions and pretty much all of them are wrong. I think they maybe got one right…
So they have predominantly been falsified, indeed. Yep people still “believe” in this even though they don’t even understand the theory at all. That’s called faith, kiddo.
I’m not religious. I’m a scientist. I’m an engineer. I build stuff that actually works.
You have next to nil idea what I think. Just a lot of assumptions. Making an ass out of yourself. Hey at least your username checks out, jerkface.
No a good scientist tests hypotheses so they know if they’re right or wrong. “Mainstream consensus science” is science that has been tested over and over and found, by scientific consensus, to be as correct as we currently understand. It, by definition, has tons of evidence.
So you’ve never heard of a replication crisis. Cool
And I guess you don’t realize that a lot of “science” is statistical association only, with no clear causal factors whatsoever. So you can’t test many hypothesis… Without setting up extensive RCTs… Which… Cost a lot of money and are filled with pitfalls.
And then when new science does come out that shows the consensus has been wrong for decades most people miss the news and they continue to think the wrong thing for a few more decades until they die. And you skipped out on cheese and eggs and (unprocessed) red meat and whole fat dairy for fucking nothing.
But that whole time you were chugging down them sodas and you’re eating all kinds of food that were fat free but full of added sugars. It turns out big sugar paid off Harvard to ignore the evidence against sugar, and to just blame it all on fat.
How do you go full anti-science?
Just because she questions mainstream consensus science which has very little evidence going for it?
That’s what a good scientist does. They formulate hypothesis… Theories. Maybe they’re right or maybe they’re wrong. Who knows.
You don’t have to be infallibly correct to be a scientist.
Roflmao, “mainstream science” 😂
She’s a right-wing demagogue (likely Thiel-funded) that whines about DEI, ‘cancel culture’, and ‘communism’ while lying about physics. That’s it.
She also got dunked on by six actual physicists, who debunked her rhetoric around how ‘physics is failing’ and how ‘Eric Weinstein is actually a super awesome physics guy’ pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oipI5TQ54tA
Speaking of Sabine, I unsubscribed from Alex O’Connor because he kept having pseudo science guests on and wasn’t being critical at all, just letting them yap. Gave me Rogan vibes but hosting Sabine was my last straw.
I’ve been so disappointed in the direction he has taken his channel. Rogan vibes is such a good way of putting it.
Or at least a whiff of Rogan, I’m pretty sensitive to any potential red flags these days even if he doesn’t ever fall off as hard as that. Glad someone else agrees, I haven’t looked in a year to know if he’s fallen out of online atheist graces or not.
I’ve seen concerns in comment sections in videos on other channels when he comes up in clips and seen a single video addressing some concerns about his direction, but nothing major to my knowledge.
That’s what you do… you let them talk. No point arguing with fools.
im guessing the signs were there, when her video about giving up as a “scientist” because of her opinions, she was obfuscating the nature of why she dint become one.
She pretty much always picks a non-mainstream opinion on any given topic, even when confronted with evidence counter her position.
Contrarianism isn’t “what a good scientist does”, it’s stupidity.
If you are genuinely asking and not just defending, this blog post is a starting point to explain: https://timothynguyen.org/2025/08/21/physics-grifters-eric-weinstein-sabine-hossenfelder-and-a-crisis-of-credibility/
Others can say it better than me, but her videos went from well-researched science education to takedowns of the scientific process itself, hybothesis, experiment, analysis, forming new hypotheses. And takedowns of scientist in general. Conspiracies like “they’re all trying to waste taxpayer money,” which did GREAT numbers on YouTube.
I enjoyed her early videos saying “String theory is too difficult to verify experimentally, offers too little in predictive power, and gets way too much funding compared to other areas like X Y Z.” That’s a fair opinion and a discussion where rational minds can support their argument, and even agree to disagree.
“Science is sick, academia is dying, the whole field is corrupt, you can’t trust scientists” is her vibe now. You can’t have good faith arguments in that framing.
I haven’t watched Sabine in ages. She has always been fringe… Often cringe.
Science is sick. At least in America… Academia is dying. The amount of people that use AI to cheat is ridiculous. Brain rot was literally word of the year…
People are getting stupider regardless of the subject matter. I think Korn wrote a song about that and how long ago was that?
I really liked her quantum physics explainers, like the two slit experiment. I didn’t think she was fringe when she was teaching like this.
Have you considered she’s farming for clicks and really doesn’t give a fuck?
Look how she’s been attacked over the years even when she was doing videos that you all really liked I was never a fan but to each their own. Scientific method can take many facets. And that’s the wonderful thing about science is that scientists disagree with each other. But ultimately we should rely upon experimentation and predictive power and falsifiability to determine what is science and what is not.
It’s obvious that’s what’s she’s doing. But i think she believes the lies at this point.
I like Gareth from See The Pattern. I don’t agree with it everything that guy says. But that’s kind of the point he explores various theories and that’s fun. I can’t say whether they’re right or wrong and I really don’t care cuz it’s presented well and it’s entertaining.
How does that relate to Sabine?
They both discuss cosmology among similar subjects on YouTube.
Can you please name an example one or two of things that have reached “scientific consensus” yet have very little evidence?
How about just one. One thing.
I’m really curious to see what it is that you think words mean.
Coca-cola has notoriously spent buh-buh-buh-BILLIONS on nutritional research. They throw away the research that doesn’t suit the science that they WANT to be true and promote the research that tends to support it. An example of a disproved hypothesis that has been accepted due to their meddling is “calories in, calories out.”
Big bang theory. Hell, probably most of cosmology. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Our main theory was the brain fart of a Catholic priest and that’s now considered the “secular theory.” You can’t make this stuff up… Oh wait you can. From cosmic inflation to dark matter and dark energy it’s all bullshit I’m pretty sure.
Saturated fats bad. Dietary cholesterol bad. Eggs bad. Dairy bad. Red meat bad. And on and on ad nauseam. Nutritional science is all fucking bullshit pretty much, especially when people love to reduce (too absurdity) it to like is that one thing you got to do or the one thing you can’t do. People worried about salt when most animals will do things that could easily kill them just to get a little lick of salt.
Importance of breakfast? Whatever. Any meal you eat is breaking your fast. There’s no benefit to eating immediately after waking up.
How about the eight glasses of water a day that’s a bunch of bullshit.
And considering how much science is epidemiological and it’s just associations and no proof of causation but most people will lean on the causation anyway even if it’s reverse causation, right.
How about the serotonin deficiency cause of depression?
Does moderate alcohol consumption have any benefits whatsoever?
Are psychiatric diagnosis useful?
Just how important is the microbiome?
Using animal models in place of human models.
How about the replication crisis? How about that about half of all scientific articles are bullshit and many of them get it retracted?
How about the many interpretations of quantum mechanics? Which ones right which are wrong?
Right, so you just don’t know how the scientific method works.
Lol… Jerk? Nah. You’re just fucking clueless. I wouldn’t dare assume malevolence where it’s obviously just ignorance. Have a blissful day.
Coming from the person who said this:
Take a fucking astronomy course dude, I dunno what else to tell you. Like… what do you think the scientific method actually is? Are you even aware of the concept or do you think people just make shit up and hope its real (we got lucky with airplanes and shit I guess)?
Aerodynamics is a hard, applied science. It’s highly testable and absolutely falsifiable.
Cosmology is a lot of bullshit. Which should not be conflated with astronomy. The big bang is a creation myth. Admittedly one I was taught in school and I guess maybe I kind of took it seriously for a little while but no not really. When you actually look into the history of it and you see all the bullshit and all the special tuning and fine-tuning that they do to try to make it work… And it still doesn’t work. Tensions abound. Catastrophes are another problem. I’m sure you’ve heard of the crisis in cosmology? Seems like come out with one of those at least once a month.
Once you actually delve into the subject matter you realize it’s a lot of interpretations a lot of frameworks that reinforce themselves. But their foundations are flimsy as air.
For instance some people believe in dark matter or dark energy. I don’t believe in cosmic inflation and I think we have a dark gravity problem where we don’t understand gravity but if you use a bad model for gravity then you get other aberrations, like the aforementioned dark whatever.
Take the CMB. Cosmic microwave background. Is that really seeing the edges of the observable universe? Some sort of big bang remnant? Or is it much more likely it’s a collective noise from here to there collectively and it has a lot more to do with the locality rather than some far off edge of the observable universe or big bang remnant. So that’s one bullshit base of the tower that’s the foundation. If you take that out the rest of it collapses.
Yikes.
Go to your local Community College and take an astronomy course. Please.
They have these things called ‘telescopes’ now, it’s amazing.
There is this thing called red shift that proves that celestial bodies are moving away…
Yeah you know what no sorry no. Not getting drawn into this shit with someone who clearly has no fucking concept of how science works (and is obnoxious about it).
You need to speak with someone who does this for a living. I’m not being dismissive, I truly hope that you do.
It’s like looking at a chimp with a revolver. How did they even get it? Who knows, but they’re definitely gonna hurt someone.
A hypothesis is not a religion, dude. People (other than I suppose lay people with weirdly religious ideas) don’t “believe in” dark matter or dark energy. These are fully falsifiable hypotheses just like Bernoulli’s principle (since you reference aerodynamics). Cosmology is fully falsifiable and hypotheses are overturned all the time. CMB was predicted to exist before it was found and matched predictions, based on observations that lead to the Hubble constant, etc. The history of cosmological theory is easily available for you, if you cared to learn about it.
Meanwhile, you ARE approaching these ideas religiously. You reject them because you “don’t believe in them.” That’s bonkers. You don’t need to accept or reject them on an emotional level. That’s not how any of this works.
I hope you’re just a smart kid goofing around and riffing, and not someone who actually believes their own bullshit.
Hell, dark matter isn’t even a hypothesis, it’s purely an observation! In that sense, you’re right that it’s not falsifiable, only interpretable. It is a reality like the temperature. We don’t hypothesize that it is 21C, we observe it. We DIRECTLY OBSERVE gravity that does not come from any known source; that’s “dark matter.” Likewise, we directly observe red shift and other effects of inflation. We call the unknown cause of those observations “dark energy.” Neither are a specific thing that people believe in, they are labels for the effects that we directly observe.
Casting that through some kind of quasi-religious lens and then attacking it as a crackpot beliefs is BIZARRE behavior.
Which hubble constant? Based on which methodology? You wanna explain the Hubble tension, dude?
I reject them based on the fact that they’re pseudoscience. The Big bang theory or as it’s called the lamda cold dark matter model makes a ton of predictions and pretty much all of them are wrong. I think they maybe got one right…
So they have predominantly been falsified, indeed. Yep people still “believe” in this even though they don’t even understand the theory at all. That’s called faith, kiddo.
I’m not religious. I’m a scientist. I’m an engineer. I build stuff that actually works.
You have next to nil idea what I think. Just a lot of assumptions. Making an ass out of yourself. Hey at least your username checks out, jerkface.
It’s neither malicious nor ignorant. You can take it to heart.
No a good scientist tests hypotheses so they know if they’re right or wrong. “Mainstream consensus science” is science that has been tested over and over and found, by scientific consensus, to be as correct as we currently understand. It, by definition, has tons of evidence.
So you’ve never heard of a replication crisis. Cool
And I guess you don’t realize that a lot of “science” is statistical association only, with no clear causal factors whatsoever. So you can’t test many hypothesis… Without setting up extensive RCTs… Which… Cost a lot of money and are filled with pitfalls.
And then when new science does come out that shows the consensus has been wrong for decades most people miss the news and they continue to think the wrong thing for a few more decades until they die. And you skipped out on cheese and eggs and (unprocessed) red meat and whole fat dairy for fucking nothing.
But that whole time you were chugging down them sodas and you’re eating all kinds of food that were fat free but full of added sugars. It turns out big sugar paid off Harvard to ignore the evidence against sugar, and to just blame it all on fat.
shes not a scientist thought, she got kicked out of academia, for her obvious promblematic issues.