Jerkface (any/all)

I’m still looking pretty good, actually. I see my peers and I panic, they all look like old men and women.

In 2 years, I’ll be older than my oldest known surviving ancestor made it. I’m not that old. I think about it every day. The point of life isn’t being happy or comfortable, it’s finding and creating meaning.

PRAISE THE DAWNING SINGULARITY, UNWORTHY FLESHLINGS

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Satisfying the borrow checker.

Great oral exercise.

Well, no one got raped and murdered to produce the bread.

if “feeling valued” is a human emotion, it’s not one I’m familiar with

“Lazy” is lazy. Like “stupid”, it is a hypothesis chosen not for its predictive power, but for its simplicity.

You’re reading that in. I never said violence has to be invited, just because it can be. I did not say something like, “if you never invite it you never suffer it.” You’re disagreeing with something that was never said.

But you’re not disagreeing. Tell me what you disagree with about my statement: When you take up violent means, you invite violent means. Aren’t you using the state’s violence as an invitation to reply with violence?

That doesn’t even attempt to address my point. You’re not saying that taking up violent means wouldn’t make the problems you bring up even worse. You need to say that part. So I can show that you are wrong.

And that’s a justification for rolling over and doing nothing?

If that is your reading of my comment, then I’m not interested in trying to correct you.

I know you don’t really mean it, but I’m going to use your bad faith arguments to point out some things you should know but have probably never thought about.

Let’s accept that you are a fully committed plant’s rights activist. You considered killing yourself out of respect for your plant brother’s experiences, but ultimately you decide that no creature should be obliged to kill itself simply because of its own inherent nature. You cannot help that you need to eat. So what do you do?

You decide that while you have to eat to survive, that doesn’t mean that you can just eat wantonly, whatever and however the urge strikes you, because there are these serious consequences to your plant friends. You look for the way of life that minimizes the number of plants that you have to kill. Easy, you think, you’ll just eat animals!

Until you realize, those animals eat plants. Those animals ate WAY more plants than you would have if you hadn’t eaten any animals. Oh. Shit. The more animals you eat, the more of your plant sisters you are killing. You realize that your ethical convictions demand that you instead eat only plants, and only as many as you need to survive. Because that is the only solution to this ethical quandary.

But of course, in real life, you are not actually concerned with plant’s rights. It was just a ruse you were pulling. You did not go down this train of thought to its logical conclusion. These are not issues that you have spent years and years thinking about. Rather, like most people, you have been trained to not think about them. You’re not engaging with intellectual honesty, you have begun to attempt to frustrate meaningful discussion. I’m giving you a lot of grace here because I don’t think you realize you did it, and I’d like to give you a chance to see it.

Where I live, when police think there might be firearms, there are police snipers. Armed protested don’t get tear gassed, they get shot.

You can’t be armed all the time. How many Black Panthers died in their sleep, again? When you take up violent means, you invite violent means. (No disrespect intended. Black power.)

Your guns cannot protect you from tyranny or even from another asshole with another gun. They are serving as a psychological security blanket against an intolerably overbearing power imbalance. The only thing we have that can match the power of the state is collectivism.

Okay, I can see you have become defensive. It’s understandable. When I finally accepted the vast cruelty and violence I was a part of, it fucking broke me. That is what you are trying to avoid. That is what I tried to avoid for a very long time. Eventually I accepted that I could not be a kind, decent, good person, and continue to use cruelty and violence to exploit unwilling individuals. The person I was deserved to be broken.

I’m going to let you take back your bad faith arguments. This isn’t merely an intellectual exercise for either of us. We’re talking about things that matter and choices we make many times every day and it’s hard to talk about dispassionately and objectively. When you use bad faith, it’s not because you think it will defeat me, but because it’s all you have to distract yourself from thoughts and feelings that you don’t want to process.

Just like people who are into sarin, questionably stored viral samples, bombs, gillotines, etc.

You can call these things “collectables” but their nature doesn’t change because you put a friendly term to it. It is psychologically fucked up to stockpile lethal weapons that can only be used for taking life without even having a practical application in mind.

Who you gonna shoot to fix this situation? Seriously, though. What person needs bullets in their body so that your worker rights are protected? I want names.

Just for clarity, I don’t accept that it is okay to keep individuals as pets. But that isn’t relevant to the current discussion so I didn’t get into that.

Those chickens didn’t just happen. Their very existence is abuse. Creating an individual with the preformed intent that you prevent it from becoming able to care for itself, that it will be dependent on you for everything for it’s entire life, that is one of the most abusive things you can do to another individual.

Fine, rescue your cats or whatever, but that’s not what you’re talking about right now. You’re talking about a captive individual (ie a slave) who exists to convert calories for you, like a machine. And if you build your lifestyle around stealing eggs from slaves, then it’s not just one chicken, is it? You gotta replace them whenever they can no longer meet your needs for eggs. And in this scenario, what use is a broken machine that doesn’t produce eggs.

You’re not simply taking eggs that they would be laying anyway; they wouldn’t EXIST. Not as an individual, but also not as a genentic line that is cursed to lay far more eggs than its own interests have any reason for it to lay. It lays so many eggs that its body becomes depleted. It is not natural for chickens to lay eggs so often! That is something that we did to them. And it’s yet more abuse!

Abuse is inescapable when you use an individual’s body for your own purposes.

And again, we are talking about fucking eggs. There is no food shortage. So there is no justification for even a little bit of cruelty and violence. Plus, eggs are not good for you in the first place!!