Oh yes I agree with you on this too, in fact. And I agree Lemmy is annoying about that. But there is some nuance I’d like to add. Like in the case of the comic in the OP, there’s an ambiguity whether the depiction of the woman has sexist implications or not. Looking at the other ones I posted, its undeniable to me that this artist is very sexist and has a bone to pick with wokeness. Did you look at the ones I posted? They’re pretty egregious…
But of course the artist has good reasonable takes on other things too, like corporate issues, as you said. That’s why in my original comment I wasn’t calling to blacklist the artist or anything like that. But I do think the way the women are portrayed is pretty gross and the other comics definitely are strong evidence for my suspicion that the author did not intend the OP comic in the non-sexist way I presented.
I looked at the ones you posted and I don’t believe at least some of these are saying what you think they are saying.
Admittedly, the first one (with Muslim woman) I don’t get. The second one to me means that the voices of people can be lost among the people who shout the loudest. Third one is about hypocrisy of people applying different standards to themselves and to others. Etc.
I don’t know if this was the intention or if the intention was to show that male paedophiles may pretend to be trans to get access to children. While I profoundly disagree with any characterisation of trans people as sexual predators (which is frankly nonsensical generalisation of diverse society) , I rather have less biological males (irrespectively of how they are identifying themselves) around toddlers than biological females, again irrespectively of how they identify themselves. Let me put it this way - there is more male than female paedophiles.
Well I won’t accuse you, it’s a complex and nuanced issue and I think its great to treat it as such, as you’ve done.
But I think this shows exactly the issue with Jago’s work, in order for us to see it as giving these issues the treatment they deserve, we have to give the artist a LOT of benefit of the doubt for a nuance of which the work itself really has no inkling. I doubt Jago has such a balanced, precise view of things as you expressed. Its a wolf wearing a trans hat - Jago gave us no indication that this is someone pretending to be trans, most likely because Jago thinks every trans person is only pretending.
Pretty much every comic I posted is depicting women engaging in typically woke leftist activities, and characterizing them as hypocrites. So it’s cool that you and I can see these comics and see how they fit in a very limited sense into a fair claim, but I just, idunno. Its clear as day to me that the artist is not on that same reasonable page with us.
The “pregnant out of options” one, which simultaneously criticizes women for being slutty while also drawing them in a way that makes the artist horny, oof. The one about catcalling is really gross, because it’s obviously saying “women get mad when someone says sexual things to them, but when its in a rap song they shake their ass to it, isn’t that so ridiculous?” While completely ignoring the fact that a rap song can’t rape you, its not addressed at you in particular, and that a woman can choose to listen to sexual music when she’s in a sexual mood, which is different from catcalling. Yet Jago wants to make this imagined hypocrisy the subject of a “joke” in that comic.
All the signs are there that this artist is an asshole. Some of their comics don’t reveal it as plainly, but that’s why on things like the dreadlocks one which are more in a grey area in isolation, end up still being fair to interpret harshly.
Oh yes I agree with you on this too, in fact. And I agree Lemmy is annoying about that. But there is some nuance I’d like to add. Like in the case of the comic in the OP, there’s an ambiguity whether the depiction of the woman has sexist implications or not. Looking at the other ones I posted, its undeniable to me that this artist is very sexist and has a bone to pick with wokeness. Did you look at the ones I posted? They’re pretty egregious…
But of course the artist has good reasonable takes on other things too, like corporate issues, as you said. That’s why in my original comment I wasn’t calling to blacklist the artist or anything like that. But I do think the way the women are portrayed is pretty gross and the other comics definitely are strong evidence for my suspicion that the author did not intend the OP comic in the non-sexist way I presented.
I looked at the ones you posted and I don’t believe at least some of these are saying what you think they are saying.
Admittedly, the first one (with Muslim woman) I don’t get. The second one to me means that the voices of people can be lost among the people who shout the loudest. Third one is about hypocrisy of people applying different standards to themselves and to others. Etc.
Well, the wolf one is clearly characterizing trans people as sexual predators. Surely we don’t like that?
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I initially misread your comment.
I don’t know if this was the intention or if the intention was to show that male paedophiles may pretend to be trans to get access to children. While I profoundly disagree with any characterisation of trans people as sexual predators (which is frankly nonsensical generalisation of diverse society) , I rather have less biological males (irrespectively of how they are identifying themselves) around toddlers than biological females, again irrespectively of how they identify themselves. Let me put it this way - there is more male than female paedophiles.
Now I can be easily accused of misandry.
Well I won’t accuse you, it’s a complex and nuanced issue and I think its great to treat it as such, as you’ve done.
But I think this shows exactly the issue with Jago’s work, in order for us to see it as giving these issues the treatment they deserve, we have to give the artist a LOT of benefit of the doubt for a nuance of which the work itself really has no inkling. I doubt Jago has such a balanced, precise view of things as you expressed. Its a wolf wearing a trans hat - Jago gave us no indication that this is someone pretending to be trans, most likely because Jago thinks every trans person is only pretending.
Pretty much every comic I posted is depicting women engaging in typically woke leftist activities, and characterizing them as hypocrites. So it’s cool that you and I can see these comics and see how they fit in a very limited sense into a fair claim, but I just, idunno. Its clear as day to me that the artist is not on that same reasonable page with us.
The “pregnant out of options” one, which simultaneously criticizes women for being slutty while also drawing them in a way that makes the artist horny, oof. The one about catcalling is really gross, because it’s obviously saying “women get mad when someone says sexual things to them, but when its in a rap song they shake their ass to it, isn’t that so ridiculous?” While completely ignoring the fact that a rap song can’t rape you, its not addressed at you in particular, and that a woman can choose to listen to sexual music when she’s in a sexual mood, which is different from catcalling. Yet Jago wants to make this imagined hypocrisy the subject of a “joke” in that comic.
All the signs are there that this artist is an asshole. Some of their comics don’t reveal it as plainly, but that’s why on things like the dreadlocks one which are more in a grey area in isolation, end up still being fair to interpret harshly.