Superman taught me that you have to be born powerful to change the world.
fuck hollywood IP though
He also taught us you should drop netanyahu from the sky to make him crap his pants
that was hawk girl
Define good.
My favorite scene in the MCU comes in Captain America - The Winter Soldier.
Hydra’s toughest badass is holding a gun on an unarmed technician, telling him to set off a weapon.
The pencil necked nerd boy stands up to the killer.
“Sorry, Captain’s orders.”
That’s the point of having heroes. They show us how we’re supposed to behave.
It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it because you were inspired by Superman, Harriet Tubman, or Toto the dog.
I’m sure the vast majority of humans are good. just the definition of what is good differs quiet much
Superman comes from a position of absurd privilege wherein he can do whatever he wants without risk to himself, and can put on a pair of glasses to become anonymous afterwards.
Everyone else has occasionally consider a compromise between what they think is right and what is pragmatic or necessary.
Superman taught us to use the privilege we have to help those that don’t.
and that’s not at all condescending and dehumanizing to those we want to ‘help’…
also one of the historical justifications for colonialism. we need to colonize you to help you because we are privileged and you are not, let us ‘raise you up’… and that went over so well…
It’s not condescending or dehumanizing to recognize that some of us are less oppressed than others.
You’re right for history, although it’s pretty obvious superman wouldn’t be OK with twisting words like that.
it’s not about twisting words.
it’s about how good intentions often lead to shitty consequences for those subjected to the ‘good’ imposed on them.
You don’t get to determine what is good for other people. They get to determine that.
Yea, and superman should be smart enough to understand that. They touch on it plenty of times in various stories. Of course the quality varies based on the writers’ understanding of self-determination, but it is a topic well addressed by Superman.
This doesn’t invalidate the idea of doing the right thing just because it’s right when you can.
My personal compromise is that I wear my underwear on the outside, but I don’t do any of the other stuff Superman does.
Your underwear’s not on the outside if you aren’t wearing anything else at all
Technically if it’s on the outside it’s overwear!
Same here. Except I wear boxers and slacks.
I wouldn’t call ‘being the only one who can take the call when Darkseid rolls up’ privilege.
Also Hawk Girl is a based mother fucker who what she did to Nenjamin Betanyahu
If a Zionist kills a child in front of me while laughing, being good would be smashing their skull in with a brick.
*Not surprised I got two people to reply that I’ve already blocked lol.
Revenge is never good. Look at the American justice system and it’s horrors. All in the name of revenge. instead consider this happened and it may never happen again. So you put him in a prison that treats him humanely and never allows him to harm another soul.
It’s not revenge to remove evil from the world. What kind of petty projection do you practice?
Ya but the Zionist has a gun and you have a brick.
Superman taught me that green rock scary
But who defines good?
Superman, now stop making questions.
Not Israel, republicans, Putin, or North Korea
Yeah sounds kind of problematic to do whatever you think is good “no matter what the world tells you”.
Morality is born from a collective. Typical American superheroes with their shallow ideals.
If only there were decades worth of stories where Superman’s morality was defined and expanded upon to provide a reasonable template that lends to genuine analysis even in academic and philosophical studies.
Yes there are, do these stories not confirm Superman’s morality as a distinctly Western liberal/Judeo-Christian ideal of the virtuous individual standing above society and deciding what justice is?
It has a typical “we’ll save the world and decide what’s best” type of American arrogance to it, doesn’t it?
If you have any reading recommendations on the philosophical analysis I’m interested.
The thing about comics is that many of them have been going on for so long, for so many different generations and audiences, that they actually handle all kinds of different perspectives depending on which stories you look at. A common theme for a long time is actually contrasting Superman against the Ubermensch idea from Nietsche and the Nazi’s bastardized version of it, which is what led to things like Homelander (and Stormfront) in the Boys. There have always been many different perspectives on Superman, his powers, and his morality. The morality of WW2-era Superman is pretty different from Silver Age is pretty different from DCAU is pretty different from Snyder’s Superman, etc.
There are quite a few books about the philosophy of Superman out there. You can start with Superman and Philosophy: What Would the Man of Steel Do?, which is a compilation of academic essays analyzing Superman’s morality.
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I mean yeah, but even if people boast about it, they did something good. I don’t think you absolutely have to idealise it.
Oh but you do have to with Superman. That’s the entire point of his character and when stories about him shine; when they’re about pressing morals and not so much a big baddy to fight. He can do about anything he wants, so it kinda’ requires him to be pressed in other ways. Stories that only put him in cliche fights or just have him morally grandstanding are the worst. He is idealized, and that needs to be reconciled with a world that has a lot of grey in it.
The recent superman movie did a decent job of it, the one with Krypto.
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