• undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    3 days ago

    Honestly I don’t give a fuck if it’s real meat. As a vegan it pisses me off when these motherfuckers try to charge more for not supporting animal abuse.

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          3 days ago

          well yeah subsidies, partially, but a whole lot of area in the US is good for grazing, but not good enough for grains. so cows are a natural way to use that landscape, otherwise it goes completely unused. that’s also a reason why there exists animal products in the first place.

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            It’s both. Costs decrease with scaled up production, but only if there’s demand for it. Otherwise crops are just wasted.

            Plus, it’s not like 100% of crops go to humans in the first place. Harvests get graded, with the first few levels being for human consumption, and the last being for animal or industrial use.

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          It is much easier to increase output for crops than livestock. The reason meat is so cheap in the US is that the government uses taxes to subsidize it, and producers torture their animals to cut costs.

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            If you don’t have the market for it, scaling ends up with food waste.

            And meat really isn’t cheap, relatively. At least good cuts. You could have a full vegan diet for less than the price of meat (per calorie), even before COVID.

            Although, all that’s about to change since 1/3 of the planet’s fertilizer production was wiped out.

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              Although, all that’s about to change since 1/3 of the planet’s fertilizer production was wiped out.

              i wouldn’t worry about that too much. these things sound scary but we’re damn good at industry in basically any country these days, we’ll make new fertilizer somehow.