Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
This wasn’t a typical driver in an urban environment, again thus was the middle of nowhere with low traffic. They also, again, weren’t trying to reach the hospital, they were being instructed to meet medical staff halfway as the dispatcher and emts determined that was the best course of action.
But it’s obviously that you’d rather feel morally superior than compassionate for someone trying to save a life; and you clearly have experience making these kinds of judgement calls, right? What a sad, sad person you must be.
There is no way to lane block someone on a remote rural road. If you’re racing to save a life you just fucking pass in the other lane.
There’s no moral superiority about this. Your anecdote is just bullshit and doesn’t change the fact that driving fast and tailgating causes more accidents than it saves lives.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
Texas law enforcement generally takes a common-sense approach to hazard enforcement. Officers focus on genuinely dangerous driving, not technical violations of hazard rules… Texas gives drivers wide latitude on hazard use, but using them without any valid safety reason can still draw attention.
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
State laws use various terms including “hazard warning lights,” “emergency flashers,” “four-way flashers,” and simply “flashers.”
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
There’s “don’t dress like you want to be assaulted” and then there’s “don’t look up your local sex offender registry, find the most violent rapist you can, drink a handle of vodka and eat three edibles, break into their house when they’re away, and tie yourself nude to their bed.”
I absolutely don’t blame rape victims for their rape, at least in any sane scenario. But if someone did the latter, yeah, I’m sorry, I’m going to say they asked for it. If someone literally goes out of their way to deliberately get raped, well then at that point it’s consensual sex, not rape.
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
I think the story goes that the ambulance was driving towards a car containing the patient, and the car containing the patient was also driving towards the ambulance.
You don’t know that they didn’t use emergency lights, and it ultimately doesn’t matter either way. Someone died a preventable death because of people like you trying to police others’ behaviour.
No one here remembers them saying this in the post it seems, and no that death didn’t happen because someone wouldn’t get over. I’m not policing anyones actions here any more than saying “there is a standard procedure for this that could’ve also impacted the death.” Fwiw that person in the example pic here doesn’t have enough clearance to switch lanes at 70+ mph safely, which would be 6+ cat lengths and would be risking lives moving over.
Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
For every 1 speeder who’s trying to reach the ER in time to save their friends life, there are 10,000 deaths caused by speeding.
Give me a break with this bullshit second hand tale. I’m not going to treat tailgaters like they are on their way to save a life. They take lives.
This wasn’t a typical driver in an urban environment, again thus was the middle of nowhere with low traffic. They also, again, weren’t trying to reach the hospital, they were being instructed to meet medical staff halfway as the dispatcher and emts determined that was the best course of action.
But it’s obviously that you’d rather feel morally superior than compassionate for someone trying to save a life; and you clearly have experience making these kinds of judgement calls, right? What a sad, sad person you must be.
Oh boo hoo HOOOOOO!!
There is no way to lane block someone on a remote rural road. If you’re racing to save a life you just fucking pass in the other lane.
There’s no moral superiority about this. Your anecdote is just bullshit and doesn’t change the fact that driving fast and tailgating causes more accidents than it saves lives.
Thats what emergency flashers are for.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
Emergency flashers… on your typical like Nissan Altima (or whatever)?
The two vehicles were headed to a central meeting point to save critical time, in the actual middle of nowhere.
Yes, it’s the red triangle button, give it a shot sometime!
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
https://legaloverview.com/is-it-illegal-to-drive-with-hazards-on/
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
Anecdotes aren’t data.
Ride my ass so closely that you put me in danger, and I’m taking my time.
“Instead of letting the dangerous driver past me and away from me I am making the situation worse by attempting to intervene”
‘data points aren’t data’
Okay but they’re not. Right? Data points by themselves aren’t data. That’s why they have a different name.
If you look at one data point, then everyone with red hair is a billionaire because I saw one once.
?
Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
There’s “don’t dress like you want to be assaulted” and then there’s “don’t look up your local sex offender registry, find the most violent rapist you can, drink a handle of vodka and eat three edibles, break into their house when they’re away, and tie yourself nude to their bed.”
I absolutely don’t blame rape victims for their rape, at least in any sane scenario. But if someone did the latter, yeah, I’m sorry, I’m going to say they asked for it. If someone literally goes out of their way to deliberately get raped, well then at that point it’s consensual sex, not rape.
Shit happens and sometimes you won’t be there for it and that’s just life. It’s not a justification to put everyone else on the road in danger.
Easy to say when it’s not you bleeding out, but alright fam
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
I think the story goes that the ambulance was driving towards a car containing the patient, and the car containing the patient was also driving towards the ambulance.
It’s tragic but that is an infrastructure failure more than anything else.
I’m my tiny country we have trauma helicopters for stuff like that. You should never get into your own car with stuff like that.
Secondly how did it is to have a alarm line operator tell you to get into your own car to meet the ambulance half way. How did that work?
In rural areas they Will communicate with both of you.
Once again, move the fuck over. You aren’t the police.
Cute story. Still not correct to drive like a psycho unless your vehicle has sanctioned emergency lights that are active.
Way to miss my point. Have better ambulance coverage.
Two things can be true: the ambulance coverage should be better and you aren’t the traffic police, you don’t know their situation, move the fuck over.
Guess which one you have more control over.
Guess which fast driving car situation is more likely?
That’s right. Assholes.
That makes more sense. Thanks
Then it’s an educational failure because they didn’t use emergency lights.
You don’t know that they didn’t use emergency lights, and it ultimately doesn’t matter either way. Someone died a preventable death because of people like you trying to police others’ behaviour.
Edit: made my comment a little less mean
No one here remembers them saying this in the post it seems, and no that death didn’t happen because someone wouldn’t get over. I’m not policing anyones actions here any more than saying “there is a standard procedure for this that could’ve also impacted the death.” Fwiw that person in the example pic here doesn’t have enough clearance to switch lanes at 70+ mph safely, which would be 6+ cat lengths and would be risking lives moving over.
The examine pic needs to fit on their back tailgate.
No, they don’t really need it at all