And I don’t mean just Google’s Android. Every single iteration. With their stupid memory management for PoWeR sAvInG.
I was typing up a rant on how incredibly boring and stupid Disclosure Day was when I just quickly switched to Firefox to look up a character’s name when Android decided that I was done using my Lemmy client and just outright killed it without even giving it enough time to save my comment to drafts, like it usually does.
You can never be sure when you leave an app whether it will continue doing what it’s supposed to or if it will be frozen or killed.
I’ve got 4 GB of RAM and multiple CPU cores. That should be enough to run a dozen apps in parallel. My frickin N900 with 128 MB had better multitasking than a modern Android smartphone!
my pc also has a full networking stack, just like the phone. And it has a bunch of services running. And i didn’t count cached memory for either, just what is in use at the moment.
If you had 64gigs of ram you’d want 60+ to be used as cache, not to be “in use”. And i force closed all apps except the one I’m using to write this comment.
Why is it so hard for you to believe stuff is bloated and can actually be significantly more efficient?
My phone doesn’t have all the services my pc has either…
You’ve got cell reception in your pc/server?
No, it can be in use, not cached. Keep actual apps open and running in the background if you want them to. Do more in the background.
Stuff could be more efficient, but you’re talking like you know how much ram operating systems of all different types need/should be using better than the people making them. You don’t.
in my laptop, not my pc, but yes. And it doesn’t make a difference. It needs a couple of megabytes of ram. Not gigabytes. A cellular modem does its thing in its own firmware, the driver side is tiny in comparison.
When you work in embedded stuff with kilobytes of ram, you learn to appreciate just how much a little memory could go. Yes, I do know, this shit is my bread and butter
You have no idea what Android or iOS or Windows or any other operating system is doing in the background though, you just think it’s “bloat” and “inefficient”. I guarantee you that the people making these OS’s know more about it than you, and are making it as efficient as it can be.
well actually, yes we do know, by actually checking. You cannot guarantee anything.
How are you checking what closed source systems are doing?
What do you think they’re doing that requires gigabytes of ram?
Thinking having a cellular connection is significantly any more memory intensive than a wifi or ethernet connection tells me that it’s you who doesn’t have the faintest idea of anything. You’re projecting
They’re using it for who knows how many dozens of things - simply a look at task manager on windows. They’re preloading heavens knows what to make the users experience better.
You’re talking about closed source operating systems and how they shouldn’t be using the ram that is available to them, and you think that I don’t have the faintest idea? 🤣
RAM is there to be used. You’re never using too much ram until you need to use more ram than you have. I’d have no issue with my windows using 60GB of RAM while “idling” if it makes the experience better, which it could.
you’re talking about caching, which is not counted and does not count as in use. Closed source != magic. They don’t do anything open source stuff can’t (I still can’t believe you thought a cellular connection was magic)