My grandfather killed Nazis and they gave him a medal.
Today is a seriously awesome day. Happy day, everyone! It’s a little less evil!
Can’t talk about this in c/politics because one of the rules says they don’t want you celebrating death.
What a crock of shit.
I’m scrolling that post enjoying seeing all the mod comments being massively downvoted and a bunch of people continuing to celebrate his death anyway.
Those mods are gonna have a real tough time when the big one happens.
Another concerning issue is who and what defines bad? The act of killing or getting joy out of it is justified by why. Your reasoning behind bad might be completely different from my reasoning, but we might agree that it needs to be done. But the reason should never be joy, it can be satisfying to rid the world of some type of danger but it should never be joy.
Rapists, pedophiles, war criminals, CEOs, most politicians, mega church pastors, etc. The list goes on. Tbh the argument of “who can really judge evil” is so washed up and thin at this pont its laughable.
who can really judge evil
I was meaning more literal and less philosophical, but sure.
@kboos1 I agree.
I think this is another case of the word meaning different things. The agony that a person may experience and the sorrow of their loved ones. Some will celebrate that death.
The cessation of malignant influence from a powerful person, and the net progress towards a more inclusive, equitable, and just society. A lot of people are celebrating that death
It affects no one if I celebrate, why not enjoy a reason to smile? You just don’t like it because you find it distasteful, there’s no reason to bring morality into this.
I don’t celebrate. But I do use Grumpy Cat’s line. Then move on.
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Explain why you think happiness over the death of a public figure who caused vast demonstrable harm to society, is similar to supporting a death cult ethnostate that murders children for fun and rapes people with dogs
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You’re twisting words here.
Being glad because someone who was actively, demonstrably harmful on an enormous scale is dead, is not the same as celebrating the death of someone you ‘don’t like’. Just semantically they are different enough, we don’t even need to get into the morality of them.
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It’s weird that you keep bringing up Zionism, tbh
You’re not making any sense. Have a word with yourself, maybe?
Celebrate that they are out of ways to do evil. Don’t celebrate death, it’s a tragedy every time.
It’s a tragedy every every time.
(Terms and conditions apply. Offer not valid in Palestine, in schools, on streets and roads, on death row, for most brown people, or in any situation involving an armed government agent, including, but but not limited to police officers, sheriffs deputies, ICE agents.)
You imply I am racist, xenophobic and a police/state violence sympathizer for calling the death of any human a tragedy? How does that make any sense?
I was making a general observation about the human condition. Like, when there’s an airline incident, there’s an investigation, an NTSB report, and the FAA usually issues a rule change in response. When a driver runs over a pedestrian, it barely makes local news, and even then, the headline is usually about the traffic delay.
Some things we treat like tragedies, but much of the time, we treat human life as basically worthless.
Funny thing: when they started taking airline safety seriously, they looked for a number that was so unthinkably high that it would representa the worth of a human life. They settled on a million dollars because that’s so unmeasurably high. They forgot to account that number for inflation and never bothered to fix that. Now airplanes start falling from the sky again…
Same argument. If you stop treating every death as a tragedy people will stopvaluing life. I agree with your observation, just not the nature of people. If we start caring again that might bring back what we value.
Don’t celebrate death, it’s a tragedy every time.
No it isn’t. This one is long overdue in fact, a lot of harm would have been avoided if it happened a decade or two ago. The tragedy is that what I’m pointing out here is the truth, that humanity still has these floaters in the gene pool at all.
Well, cleaning the gene pool is a commonly used explanation for eugenics and ethnic clensing. Surely the lemmings upvoting this are all about that?
Also functionality there is no difference in outcome if you take someone like that and exile or imprison them. So there is an argument to be made that the real problem is people putting those floaters in power in a democracy.
Celebrating the death of somebody you loathed is more in the general direction of mob justice.
Live by the sword. They’ve been begging for it for literally decades, don’t whine and cry now that their wish is granted.
Assume that they are probably stupid. And that shouldn’t be a reason to follow stupid peoples idea of how the world should be working even if it pertains to them.
Celebrating the death of another is bad actually, yes. And it does make you a bad person. You don’t have to mourn the dead if they’re scum. Speak ill of them all you want. But to celebrate another’s death takes it a step further. It means you’re severely lacking in humanity, in empathy. You’ve left civility completely behind. It lowers you to the same level of those you despise, and perhaps even lower. Are you a person that only has hate and bitterness in your heart? Change that so you can actually enjoy the better and brighter future that you hope for.
No empathy for those who are void of empathy
I have joy and hope for positive developments, and that is not diminished by my joy at one less active enemy of life
Peace cannot exist without a credible threat of violence
Lol party all you want. I’m not OP. I don’t hold absolutist views on the morality of celebrating a death.
But the moral evaluation of an agent celebrating the death of another has absolutely nothing, at all, to do with the “Paradox of Tolerance”. At the first whisper of critical thought applied to the concept, you’ll find that people will always motte-and-bailey to “It is a descriptive paradox and prescribes nothing”. So even if it was conceptually relevant, suggesting the the paradox of tolerance actually “suggests” any action is already a misapplication.
You are free. You don’t need to appeal to anything. The guy was hurting people and now he can’t anymore. You don’t need any to reference any philosopher to give yourself permission to accept 1+1=2.
We cheer when the firefighters extinguish a blaze. We don’t mourn the loss of a jagged edge on a hand railing after a craftsman sands it smooth. I’m pretty comfortable with feeling relief when I land at a toilet when I rreeaallyy have to take a shit. The hangup that you can’t be happy that something that was hurting you is gone is the weird thing. It’s incumbent on anyone to explain why you shouldn’t celebrate, not to justify why you can.
Ok
Counterpoint: I am human, with a heart that can contain hate, bitterness, joy, hope, and all sorts of other feelings. To quote the words of Walt Whitman, I am legion; I contain multitudes.
Today, celebrating the death of evil is joy, but even so hate and bitterness often get a bum rap. They are sometimes our best motivators to act to change injustice, and as such, are vital emotions.
Wow, what a stupid take lol.
Doesn’t count when the person who died was a fascist who actively worked to make the lives of marginalized folks even worse.
It still counts. Just because someone else has a complete lack of any moral center or humanity doesn’t mean that we should cast ours aside too and join them.
WRONG
The high road gets you nowhere but dead.
Dancing on the grave of tyrants is absolutely moral.
I prefer pissing on the graves.
Bore off.
Some people are absolutely deserving of death and we should rejoice when they are gone for their absence makes the world and objectively better place
You celebrate when an epidemic ends, you celebrate when a fire is extinguished, you celebrate when an actively damaging piece of shit dies. Not that difficult.
Shut up Donny. You’re out of your element!
Nah seeing bad people die is fun. I could watch Nazis getting shot all day, hell I’d have it as background videos for a rave if I could.
You sound like Batman’s bitch ass letting the Joker off for the millionth time to go kill more.
I’m taking the day or 2 off after that orange fuck finally dies (to party). I just hope it’s incredibly painful when it happens. Maybe I’ll even make t-shirts for the friends who join in on the party.
I think it’s more civil to celebrate the deaths of horrible people. Sounds like a “rose-coloured glasses” type scenario that you’re discussing.
