Specifically the ones that post like bots but are not marked as bots.

The accounts that post into all sorts of comms including many they aren’t a member of. The posts are usually pretty low quality and its clear the operator is not curating anything.

I find them annoying so I block. What do you think about it?

  • papalonian@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 days ago

    I’m pretty sure that they specifically repost things posted from .ml accounts. They aren’t looking at the posts or hoping to farm “karma” or whatever, they’re trying to de-populate the instance.

    Can be pretty annoying when all the .ml posts line up with the cm00* posts.

    • cm0002@lemdro.idEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      Yea that’s right

      Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

      I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitilize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms.

      Megathread on the issue

      Some highlights from the link:

      Dessalines, head .ml admin, lead Lemmy dev actively spreading genocide denialism https://sh.itjust.works/post/61371958

      .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

      “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

      "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

      “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

      “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

      General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

      And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

      I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

      On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

      You could always just block .ml :)

      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        I did not know the reason you did it; before today i thought it was just some kind of paranoia about always needing to register new accounts.

        Have you ever put the context thing in your copied posts?

        • cm0002@lemdro.idEnglish
          2·
          5 hours ago

          some kind of paranoia about always needing to register new accounts.

          I mean, you’re not entirely wrong, the multiple accounts is for a few different reasons, but one of them is defense against impersonation accounts which has happened to me lol

          But the main reasons for the many instance accounts are kinda unrelated to the ml crossposting kinda are, they are

          1. Promoting smaller instances, because of the volume of my posting it helps makes smaller instances more recognizable
          2. Making comms on fitting smaller instances (e.g. a programming comm id make on programming.dev)
          3. Mitigating against the imposter problem
          4. Better interconnecting smaller instances

          Have you ever put the context thing in your copied posts?

          I’ve thought about it, but ultimately decided against it, I felt it would make the thread in whatever comm I’m posting it in too off-topic. So instead i just comment it whenever it’s inquired about

      • papalonian@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 day ago

        I could, but for the very reasons you cite instances don’t defederate from them, I don’t. I block individuals that post bullshit I don’t like, but my feed is already small as it is without purging a sizable amount of it.

        • cm0002@lemdro.idEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          Fair, but I can tell you that a lot of .ml comms only appear to be very large because they’re one of the original instances so their comm subscriber counts are quite bloated with dead and deleted accounts (I don’t think subscriber counts decrease for any reason other than you actually clicking the unsubscribe button on a comm)

          If you take a look by MAUs (a much better metric to go by) the non.ml Threadiverse is actually very healthy

          https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

          • papalonian@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 day ago

            My decision isn’t based on metrics, just by how many .ml posts/comments I see that I know I wouldn’t if I’d blocked the instance. I know a lot of crap comes from them, and I don’t doubt they’re problematic, but for the most part, the shitty posts and comments from them are down voted to hell so I never see them, or are from users I’ve already blocked.

    • Hirohito@fedinsfw.appOPEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      Yes, the operator is very public about their goals. This doesn’t make it any less annoying and by all measures it is not having the desired effect. I like that I can just block and make it all disappear.

      • cm0002@lemdro.idEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        It’s absolutely having the desired effects, when I started I was needing to sift through 100-200 posts every morning when I start

        Now its down to 30-40 and select comms I monitor increase in MAUs