You put their interest first. Whatever that may be.

You do not provide links.

I do not know. But days before are called Big Thursday, Big Friday and Big Saturday.

So Easter would be called Big Sunday, but is instead called Big Night. Could be because the Christ has risen in the night between Sutrday and Sunday.

In Slovenian it is called Big Night

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They could solve their problem by kissing each other…

It helps having a list of predefined general questions memorized. Like: What are your hobbies? What do you like about them? Why?

You can skip the first few questions if you already know the answers. Like going straight to: "What is your favorite thing about football? Why? You have to train a bit to continue from there. To continue comming up with questions. Like: “Do you just like to watch football or do you also play it?”

But the hardest part is actually to start and ask first few questions.

How you start is not that important. Just that you do. For example you can start with: “Who is your favourite super hero? Why? What super powers would you chose for yourself? Why? Why not the…?”

Do not forget abot “why” follow up. Or they will often close conversation with a short answer.

Conversation can then continue in any direction. Do not force it in a direction you want it to go.

I think I understand. That is why political parties try to get charismatic people to join them. Charismatic person will be able to trade that charisma for positions which translate to money and power. Thank you.

That would be pretty far from the actual teachings of Christianity,

That is why there is a second part to my claim. Most Christians are not Christians by the common atheist definition of God.

and from their actual holy book that is the very center of the religion.

Most grown up Christians read the book in a very figurative sense and strait up refuse or avoid parts that are inconsistent with their believes or even other parts of that book.

but don’t really buy the religion

I argue that most Christians don’t buy the whole religion. (For deeper response I would get annoying and ask you to define “religion”, and then I can argue which parts and believes are usually internalized and which not)

That’d make the person an atheist who’s christian only culturally.

That would make a person a-theist by your definition of deity. By the definition of “christian deity” I provided they are christian deists. By definition.

I would argue that most common internalized definition of God by Christians is different from the official Christian definition of God. And this would make most Christians atheist by the official Christian definition. But to argue that, we would have to agree on what is the official Christian definition of God.

Once you define God this implies also the definition of deism and atheism (if we do not get to annoying and ask about what “to believe” means).

You used loosely defined term: “Divine being”. Those things are IMO by the most grownup christians internalized definition of the “divine being”. So this is the same thing and can be replaced.

I am saying most grown up Christians do not believe in an actual “divine being” (definition: a really powerful, physical, human like creature).

There is also a concept in Christianity that “God” is a part of every human.

Let me rephrase your comment in a few ways. Consider by the definition I am talking about: Love,wisdom,… = Concepts = Values = God = Divine being = part of humans.

“I think the problem with this is while atheists may believe in God, we don’t make them to be about God, we just think God is just inside every human.”

Or

“I think the problem with this is while atheists may believe in Love,Wisdom,…, we don’t make them to be about Love,Wisdom,…, we just think Love,Wisdom… is just inside every human.”

Ignosticism can make things annoying.

Sorry I meant to sent you this reply to someone else with the same question:

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/24471142

You can absolutely talk to absolute strangers.

There are two ways on how to not be a creep:

1. You start in a form of comments: Something happens, you comment it. More to yourself that to them. And if they respond you can continue.
2. You randomly catch them looking at you. It must be random. You should not stare under any circumstance. Then you smile. If they do not smile back. Stop. If they do, you can repeat that a few times. And if successful then you can approach them with a simple general question like “are you returning from work?”. (Note “Where are you heading?” Can be considered creepy and stalker like).

At any point you must be attentive and if they are uncomfortable immediately stop engaging.

But this is a bad way to make a friend. Those are people you should expect to never see them again. This is just a way to make someone’s day better. This is never meany to be anything more than a casual conversation with a stranger.

Learn how to be honestly invested into people you talk with:

• ask them meaningful questions about them.
• aks them open-ended questions.
• ask them sub-questions.
• find a topic they are really interested and sparks a joy in their eyes. And go deeper. Try to learn.
• ask why question. “Why do you like this the most?”

For kids I usually go with what is your favorite school subject? Why? What is the best part? Why?.. For grownups ask about their hobbies. Why do they like them? What is the best part?

This is the single most important advice. This is about them not you. And it forms deeper connections.

Extra: Simple smile can really make a strangers day.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25143640

In my experience grown up Catholics usually internalize more abstract definitions of God. Something between Love, Wisdom, Conscience and Inner voice, Goodnes,…

From the catholics I have close enough relationships I figured they internalized this kind of definiton. And as a kid by often overhearing my parents “marriage group” I figured this is quite common.

There was also a research (not sure how valid) that asked christians to draw God. Kids drew Jesus or old man with a grey beard watching from the sky. However grownups drew something abstract, like symbols, hearts or colors…

But if you will ask christians for a definition of God they will probably give you a textbook definition while not really believing in it.

Can you elaborate?

My hot take: If most atheists would use the same definition for God as most Christians do, they would consider themselves as Christians.

And most christians would be considered atheists if they used common atheist definition.

Ignosticism sometimes want you to also define what “to believe” means.

Why? You can see in the comment you replied to.

When you are ignostic it is interesting that you can also be, agnostic and Christian by some definitions and antitheist by other definitions… A schrodinger christian.

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But then you have to use their shitty non privacy friendly phone or still use two phones.