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  • I had an argument with the user posting the Jago comics, and I have two things to add here:

    1. Even when many users presumably blocked them, there’s still a lot more downvotes than upvotes on most of the Jago comics they posts. Thus it’s actually a majority, if there isn’t something I overlooked.

    2. If we asume that a) majority of people don’t like these comics and b) they will all eventually block them, it will be really bad for any new user. What will any average new user see is a bunch of comics they don’t like, with almost only upvotes (since users who blocked the poster don’t downvote it)

    I think that’s gonna drive new users away, and it’s a reason why I wouldn’t promote Lemmy to my friends for example.



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    17 days ago

    This is just dumb and I suspect you know.

    by banning people you disagree with?

    By banning people from posting if the majority doesn’t want to see what they are posting. If I was in the minority of downvoters I would simply block you.

    But if I were to invite people to Lemmy now, it would go like: “it’s amazing but there are a few people posting bad stuff every day and you have to manually block them to make the place enjoyable”

    It’s not just me, it’s objectively the majority. And that’s excluding people who blocked you and thus don’t downvote you.

    You act like you have some undeniable right to post whatever you want if it doesn’t break the rules directly, but you seem to forgot that the rules are there to make the community enjoyable.


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    17 days ago

    and people in general have an overwhelming tendency to use downvotes to show disagreement, which is not the same as the post being bad.

    While that might be the case in some communities, I don’t think it is in this one. People look at comics because they like them, and downvote comics they don’t.

    And I don’t think votes are unpredictable either. When OP goes to post comic from this transphobic and sexist author, they know very well it will be downvoted.

    I’m not saying we should delete everything with downvotes, but this is clearly a case of deliberately posting content while knowing the community will not enjoy it.

    Reddit solves this with karma. Getting downvoted is a punisment, and so OP wouldn’t keep posting these comics to not ruin his karma entirely (which might even prevent him from posting and commenting in many subreddits).

    The karma system has its own problems and I’m glad Lemmy doesn’t have it, but it also means we need to solve this another way.


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    17 days ago

    Downvotes are a way of the community to show dislike for some content. People who don’t like it will eventually moderate it for themselves by blocking OP, but any new user will still see it. I don’t think that’s a good way to run a community. Reddit has karma for that, while Lemmy doesn’t and should deal with it via moderation IMO.