Absolutely! It’s important to remember it’s a pretty subjective / lighthearted topic and not to take it too seriously. I can definitely see how curries can be seen that way from a different perspective. There’s an interesting history that plays into these cultural perceptions, which may explain why other meat in ‘gravy’ dishes may not come to mind first for some – such as meatloaf and gravy which can only be described aesthetically as a spurt of diarrhea on top of a sliced turd.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/03/26/394339284/how-snobbery-helped-take-the-spice-out-of-european-cooking

There seemed to be a need for a greater diversity of foods being pointed out here so thought we could broaden the horizons of this discourse, make it a little more inclusive and maybe even learn a little something about how a perspective is, at the end of the day, just an arbitrary amalgamation (kind of like the garbage plate I posted above) of subjective views. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course.

Obviously not in a pedantic sense, just that they also don’t look appetizing on their own, it’s the flavor that’s associated with them that makes it work.

If we’re being honest a hamburger looks like a smashed turd and a hot dog looks like fluorescent factory meat.

Now that I think about it a regional American dish that comes to mind is the garbage plate (named aptly for being a hodgepodge of leftovers) which looks like someone unloaded on a tray of french fries part way through their colonoscopy prep and then blew their nose on top of that:

Flavor is suprisingly solid.

Another would be oatmeal which can taste quite hearty if done right but looks very much like snot in a bowl:

Agree, hamburgers at least taste good even if at their worst they look like compressed excrement between buns. Hot dogs can often be flavourfully dubious while also appearing as artificial factory processed mystery meat, but there are definitely exceptions!

My guess is many users are American so it will be hard to relate to but at least we can acknowledge that the appearance of food is very culturally coded / subjective.

My guess is we have a few folks here that didn’t grow up with curry which in my humble opinion looks and tastes great (subjective, I know) but if I had to pick one it would be octupus. Something about the suction cups.

Feel the same way about hot dogs and hamburgers. Must depend on what you grow up with.

One of the most delicious dishes I’ve had as a fan of curry though I’ve only ever eaten it at a Malaysian restaurant and not homemade.

This is a pretty normal aesthetic for food in South and South East Asia so it looks amazing to me…Seems like the appearance of food is very culturally subjective.

Agree that Mossadegh was imperfect but, in the eyes of many, Western meddling was a direct contributer to the revolution, opening the door for the Mullah regime. It exemplifies the hipocrisy of the US/British as they claim to stand for democracy while installing autocratic puppets around the world to meet their needs. They have dutifully deprived millions of the very self-determination they claim is one of their core values.

Agreed thanks for the insights.

This seems like an inaccurate representation of Iranian history so please feel free to elaborate. Sure Iran was an autocracy in 678 BC, not sure how that’s relevant to today, but Iran’s democracy was overthrown by Western powers when it tried to nationalize its oil in the early 50s. The West then installed an autocrat representing its interests until the revolution in 79.

In fact several Gulf countries (Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar) had prodemocratic nationalist movements during this period that were purposefully squashed by the West.

The purportedly most democratic nations in the world have also been the most active in supressing democracy elsewhere. They’ve had to become very adept at talking through both sides of their mouths, as it’s easier to exert foreign influence / interference via an autocrat versus a messier and less predictable democratic process.

One can imagine that being told “a civilization will die tonight” will act as motivation for them to get one.

It’s not just about how useful the dollar is to Iran, it’s about making it less useful to other countries also.

If Iranian oil is back on the market there will be a lot of interested buyers. If it’s only sold in yuan or crypto.

The petrodollar wasn’t going to last forever youre right but there are many parties interested in ending it sooner than later.

This is absolutely true.

Even with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, Britain initially struggled to compete with the sheer quality and cost-effectiveness of Indian hand-woven fabrics.

They instituted a 100% tariff on importation of Indian fabric to support their nascent mechanized textile manufacturing.

This allowed them to hone the machinery by creating a sandbox to grow their new expertise in. The quality could not match what was produced by hand but the sheer volume and efficiency could easily outdo manual methods.

Over time as they gained political influence, they were able to point guns at and break the thumbs of the right people in India effectively eradicating Indias domestic textile industry.

They then forced Indian markets to accept British cloth with no tariff, making that consumer sandbox bigger.

Minus the colonial / coercive economics at the end there, this is an example of Britain using tariffs very effectively to grow their own industry while taking down a global leader in textiles (one that even the Romans wrote of 1500 years prior).

May well have played out the same without supportive policy, but the protectionism certainly helped them grow their own industry faster and the violent / coercive colonial element helped them remove a traditional, higher quality though analog/manual competitor sooner.

What America is doing is more of a dying empire vibe. Protection for the sake of clinging to the old and familiar way, with no plan or strategy to adapt for the future.

Depends how much the average consumer is paying attention. Many probably don’t know that every EV can use the Tesla chargers now.

The competition here is certainly constrained. Most car manufacturers are making less EVs due to decreasing overall demand and expirarion of federal EV tax credits.

The real competition is on the other side of the Pacific. Europe and Canada have accepted that on some level while the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.

There are legitimate concerns don’t get me wrong. But the US won’t be able to hide from a more dynamic and competitive product forever.

Tesla has 35% market share in Norway.

France saw an increase in Tesla registrations by 203% year over year.

Sweden had a 144% increase in registrations. Denmark had a 96% increase.

In the US, the core demographic remains white male, ~48 years old, with a household income exceeding $140,000, particularly in conservative states (Texas/Florida).

Part of the problem is that competition is still lacking in many ways especially when it comes to charging infrastructure.

Yeah it’s not just Indians:

In 2025:

According to the analysis, Tesla achieved loyalty rates of 63.6% among Asian households and 61.9% among Hispanic households. These figures exceeded national averages.

Favorability / loyalty have dropped across all groups over the past several years.

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Always good to have standards. Any guy that makes racist jokes really. Even if you are racist too, one should remember that if he’s making racist jokes he’s likely a misogynist as well and looks down on you.

It’s even worse when you find out they’re not acting.

Passport strength is determined by a nation’s wealth and historical relations. Previously colonizing nations generally have a good relationship with each other and are wealthier so they allow relatively free movement, for example.

For some reason this comment reminded me of that Cuban dude that retrofitted his car to run on coal because of American sanctions. What a world we live in.