

Given as these “Generation” tend to be made up anyway for marketing, tell me more about the split you are thinking of and why?


Given as these “Generation” tend to be made up anyway for marketing, tell me more about the split you are thinking of and why?


This is a great data pull btw. This is similar across much of the Global North.


Data doesn’t support that at all.
Many just don’t want to, which is not fear. Only a few of those polled (across many countries) indicate fear (state of the world, fear of being a parent, etc) as being the reason. Egotism, insecurity, genetics, finances, etc are all some of the basis and they cannot all be boiled down to just fear. This is structural and cultural not just emotional.


This is a great question, and I highly recommend diving into this and it’s implications. It’s a sort of simple answer, but is really very complex with some deep fundamentals.
I went on a rant @lod’s comment, which I maybe should have posted directly, but I’ve spent years digging in on this and it’s impacts.
I’m happy to have direct conversations about it, but I have found out that Lemmy isn’t the forum for more than simple direct answers.
I hope you get some great answers though!


While I appreciate the optimism, I’m not sure that the historical data bears out that we will probably see the birthrates climb again when the supports are in place. This is a massive challenge for all of the Global North, but especially Japan, China, South Korea, and then all the way up in the “developed world.” Some where around Panama, Indonesia, or Myanmar is where you see the 2.1 replacement rate (from 2024 data), so something close to 100 countries below 2.1 TFR.
Bribes have been tried (as in one time payments for kids). Child Care coverage has been tried. Other structural changes (like the Nordic dual parent paternity leave, or even time shifted paternity leave like France and others).
Maybe you mean more than just economic and governmental supports. As Claudia Goldin has said “cultural changes around gender and women’s autonomy are the primary drivers of fertility decline, not just economic factors that policies might address”
This is why, as an American, I’m so confused about the anti-immigration bonanza happening. It’s not only against the American ethos, but shooting ourselves in the foot both economically and culturally. We need more people to make up for the future loss that is happening, and people from around the world have wanted to come. They pay for their worth in huge amounts (I’m already digressing so I won’t paste more journals and such on this), and what’s more if we want the economy to thrive and survive we need them… (Should we have a growth based economy is another question, that is worth asking, but again digression.)
Anyway, the point is Global North has tried and failed to address TFR, and no one has one that battle. Greater standard of living = lower TFR.


You mean Windows 10 is the perfect product? MS can’t improve on it so it must be perfect… Right? All others are just seeking perfection they can never achieve.
Wait… Yells out the door “Someone go get me a Jesuit Priest!”
This is absolutely the engineering solution that calls to me…But if the viscosity is so think it requires a vacuum of pull it in, does it need an exit mechanism?
Not that we are voting, but 👆 is very flask like and so far my favorite.
While I love the idea of a flask of soup, how da fuk do you get broccoli cheddar into a flask! When I have used them, I can barely get alcohol into the flask with the tiny funnel without alcohol abusing the counter?!?!


YouTube cofounder Steve Chen said at a talk at the Stanford Graduate School of Business last year that he wouldn’t want his kids consuming only short-form content, noting that it might be better to limit kids to videos longer than 15 minutes.
I hope this is introduced at the LA trial in some form that demonstrates the why.
I should not be amazed, but I still am, at the entire lack of morality that tech entrepreneurs have post dotcom bursting.
Don’t forget this is an international game though. China is playing this game.