• atoro@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    A lot of people in the comments conflating “AI bubble burst” with “AI has disappeared completely”, and saying it’s not happening because AI still exists there.

    When the dot com bust happened, the internet didn’t just disappear overnight, it just shrunk into something more reasonable. I feel like this is the same.

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      5 hours ago

      Same vibe as “if global warming is real how come it was cold at my house this morning?”

      AI/LLMs will still be around, they just wont be the end all be all some people have been hyping it as

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      4 hours ago

      They aren’t even as against ai in china based off what I’ve seen on rednote, it’s not like the us mentality, but they did seem to favor antrhropic ovee their own companies before they got blocked

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      9 hours ago

      Yeah, to me it kinda seems inevitable that the AI bubble will pop. Because AI companies are having such a hard time making a profit selling their AI. The tech that they developed will still exist, and self-hosted models will definitely still exist. But the glut of AI datacentres and the price gouging on RAM and GPUs that they cause, cannot possibly last indefinitely.

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      10 hours ago

      The internet now is bigger than the internet pre dot com burst, though, right?

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          1 hour ago

          Not to say the internet is in a great state now, but I suppose it’s better than the projected state had the bubble never burst. 🤷‍♂️

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          4 hours ago

          I’m not sure AI in this form will ever find a trillion-dollar problem to solve that would justify the sheer amount of money being burned on it. It’s too limited in its capacities and too inefficient for what little it can do reliably.

          If a significant technological breakthrough comes along that permits actual reasoning and evaluation, coupled with some capacity to reliably extract such reasoning tasks from natural language input, its capabilities might expand enough to actually fill some of the roles it has been hyped up for.

          Simultaneously, it would need a massive improvement in efficiency (both in terms of cost and in energy and water demand) to make it financially feasible.

          I think the comparison would work better if, say, some new removable storage medium LargeDisk had been all the rage for transfering large amounts of data, and everyone was building LD factories and founding LD Express services to facilitate fast delivery of large amounts of data. You just call a data distributor, such as a video rental service, order a few movies and a few hours later a courier arrives. You hand them the LD from your last order to return, then take the new back to your home cinema and plug it in.

          Then along comes high-speed internet. Suddenly, transferring LDs is cumbersome and slow, when you can just stream those movies faster. No more ordering in bulk to make the delivery fee worth it, no more waiting for hours. LDs persist, but they become part of your home cinema instead, the place where such movies are stored.

          Sure, the demand for LDs will briefly collapse, then steadily rise as more people build their own home cinema, but it won’t be for the LD’s merit alone.

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            5 hours ago

            But, in the same vein, things will grow that are actually useful. Nobody needs AI injected into every aspect of daily life like it is now, but there will be things we look bark on in 20 years wondering how we lived without it, I’m sure.

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              5 hours ago

              And they’re still be people, just like now, who long for those days when life was simpler and less stressful and we were living closer with nature and ourselves rather than through a machine entity.