Okay, you are actually advocating for people to give up. This is like a cattle mindset. The elephant that no longer tries to break the twine around his neck.

This implies you think I’m a collectivist. I don’t like most of my fellow Americans as I think they’re broadly backwards morons, why would I fight to help them? There are a small portion I’ve met that are OK people but most of them suck.

Never mind the fact that, no, I’m not underestimating—do I need to remind you what your grandmothers and grandfathers bled for? Are they just better people than you?

They procreated, they’re worse people than me for that. Among other things.

I’m not a virtue ethicist though.

I am American, by the way. Do not come at me with that “fuck off european” horseshit.

Wasn’t going to. I’m not operating on “You don’t get it, its harder here.” I’m saying its functionally impossible to go from the status quo to a successful leveraged rebellion/revolution here.