Well we had No Kings protests. Police have shot and killed out citizens in the process of that. In my area, during a protest, police grabbed, dragged, and shot a protestor point blank in the eye with a less than lethal gun (he’s blind now)
the point is there is no escalation from us protestors when that happened, Occupy wallstreet pretty much showed oligarchs have nothing to be worried about, they can shovel culture war into social media its enough to distract people.
We had a similar per capita rate of participation in No Kings as France has had in its recent demonstrations. But the US has a much lower population density over a much larger land area, so the protests appeared smaller despite having millions more people in the streets.
I would argue that No Kings protest will never achieve the goals french protesters are because No Kings refuses to use a wider diversity of tactics.
You can’t force someone to the negotiating table without force. Sit ins, speeches and tweets won’t make the Republican party any less fascist.
Yeah, that’s the thing about a protest, it doesn’t help unless you have a structure to harness this energy. When police started shooting at protesters in Ukraine in 2014, several political and activist organisations banded together with people, and together they used this fear and anger to resist and ultimately win.
Well political activist organizations were already banded together going to No Kings protests when those citizens were shot, for some reason we’re not winning yet
I am very plugged in on the American politics, and yet I have no idea which ones you can mean. This means that either those organisations are small enough so they don’t even break the local social media barrier, or they were so quiet after that, they didn’t even try to do anything on any public level.
Two people were executed on the streets by the regime, and the reaction was less severe than when a shitty musician was shitty.
its likely its too small to even get bigger in the news, also because conservatives controls most of the MSM as well, it will hit the news, its all “look what trump did that make him look stupid” gaffe everyday.
i noticed after the protests, people just went home like no news after that, they treat it like they were working a shift a store, 8hrs here, 8 hrs there and then done. also these are Planned protests, so you get what you “paid for” and likely kept on a tight leash by the DNC and MSMs to not escalate further. it allows them to have release valve when something schumer-hakeems and congrees does something terrible voting with the GOP.
exactly. These peaceful protests rarely ever substantiate substantial changes. The literal largest per capita protest in american history didnt do shit.
And people have lost their eyes protesting the redesign of a train station here in Germany. Clashes with law enforcement are to be expected when you protest the government. You don’t tuck in your tail because of that.
Well we had No Kings protests. Police have shot and killed out citizens in the process of that. In my area, during a protest, police grabbed, dragged, and shot a protestor point blank in the eye with a less than lethal gun (he’s blind now)
the point is there is no escalation from us protestors when that happened, Occupy wallstreet pretty much showed oligarchs have nothing to be worried about, they can shovel culture war into social media its enough to distract people.
Yeah, and the freedom people who once frothed at the mouth about wanting to fight tyrants are now probably the ones shooting protestors happily now.
All for the tribe.
We had a similar per capita rate of participation in No Kings as France has had in its recent demonstrations. But the US has a much lower population density over a much larger land area, so the protests appeared smaller despite having millions more people in the streets.
I would argue that No Kings protest will never achieve the goals french protesters are because No Kings refuses to use a wider diversity of tactics. You can’t force someone to the negotiating table without force. Sit ins, speeches and tweets won’t make the Republican party any less fascist.
…ok… and did this ‘protest’ substantiate substantial changes? …WAYMENT! 😂
Stop trying to make substantiate happen!
I substantiate a “No”
“guys, we went on a permitted march in favor of slightly less shitty authoritarian neoliberals, what more do you want?”
Nobody was shot and killed for No Kings. What the people were shot and killed by ICE for was direct action of rapid response against ICE.
“If your oppressors approved of the ‘protest’ ? Congratulations. I hope you enjoyed your parade” 😂🥳
Yeah, that’s the thing about a protest, it doesn’t help unless you have a structure to harness this energy. When police started shooting at protesters in Ukraine in 2014, several political and activist organisations banded together with people, and together they used this fear and anger to resist and ultimately win.
Well political activist organizations were already banded together going to No Kings protests when those citizens were shot, for some reason we’re not winning yet
I am very plugged in on the American politics, and yet I have no idea which ones you can mean. This means that either those organisations are small enough so they don’t even break the local social media barrier, or they were so quiet after that, they didn’t even try to do anything on any public level.
Two people were executed on the streets by the regime, and the reaction was less severe than when a shitty musician was shitty.
its likely its too small to even get bigger in the news, also because conservatives controls most of the MSM as well, it will hit the news, its all “look what trump did that make him look stupid” gaffe everyday.
i noticed after the protests, people just went home like no news after that, they treat it like they were working a shift a store, 8hrs here, 8 hrs there and then done. also these are Planned protests, so you get what you “paid for” and likely kept on a tight leash by the DNC and MSMs to not escalate further. it allows them to have release valve when something schumer-hakeems and congrees does something terrible voting with the GOP.
exactly. These peaceful protests rarely ever substantiate substantial changes. The literal largest per capita protest in american history didnt do shit.
What does this tell the americans?
That a protest should be a tactic, an action towards an immediate goal, and not a goal within itself.
And maybe, protests do very little in America because ruling class aren’t afraid of the public that much
they should make them afraid, seeing as how they outnumber theem overwhelmingly.
Don’t forget number three!!! Maybe you’re not as “plugged in” as you thought
That’s exactly what the Serbian protestors were forced to do as well - and unlike Ukraine, they didn’t have lots of CIA backing to help them.
And people have lost their eyes protesting the redesign of a train station here in Germany. Clashes with law enforcement are to be expected when you protest the government. You don’t tuck in your tail because of that.