Artificial-intelligence systems such as large language models (LLMs) can exhibit behaviour that seems strikingly intelligent. This has led many people, including some experts, to wonder whether these systems could have some form of consciousness — the capacity for subjective experience. However, we think that existing AI systems are not conscious, and that, along current trajectories of development, they are not likely to become conscious. Greater clarity about whether AI could become consciousness will be crucial as society grapples with the challenges posed by this increasingly powerful technology.

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    1 day ago

    Nobody can even agree on a concrete definition of consciousness so I’m not going to bother reading these ‘reasons’.

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          2 hours ago

          Sapient, salient, sentient, self-aware. An LLM can’t be any of those things any more than an abacus can be. But I’m sure you’re just gonna devolve into philosophical rhetoric about nature of consciousness that still isn’t actually relevant but that will allow you to apply it to your misunderstanding of how LLMs function. This thread is apparently an AI bro brigade and I’m not interested in engaging with a bad faith group.

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      Nobody can even agree on a concrete definition of consciousness

      Not only is that false, it doesn’t make logical sense…

      Lots of people agree on a different definitions of consciousness.

      And most of the ones educated on the topic all agree on the same thing.

      A bunch of people who never bothered to try and learn about something not understanding it, doesn’t mean anything.

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        12 hours ago

        Not only is that false, it doesn’t make logical sense…

        Argument by assertion and you haven’t proven the assertion

        Lots of people agree on a different definitions of consciousness.

        Lots of people can’t agree on a different definition. Is there a different definitions then by it’s very nature people do not agree.

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          12 hours ago

          Nobody can even agree on a concrete definition of consciousness

          I agree with myself…

          Nobody can ever agree on _____

          Isn’t a logically sound statement.

          Not everyone can agree on _____

          Is logical, but means nothing because a single flat earther means we can’t all agree the earth is round

          I thought that was obvious…

          Lots of people can’t agree on a different definition. Is there a different definitions then by it’s very nature people do not agree.

          But you clearly don’t understand the difference…

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            11 hours ago

            It’s really not difficult. You made a statement that stated that you believe that there is consensus, so presumably that means that you know where that consensus exists, therefore provide a link to it. If you cannot then you cannot make the assertion that consensus exists, because by definition it doesn’t.

            Your entire argument rests on the basic idea that there is a scientific definition for consciousness and we have a test for if something is conscious or not. There is no test because there is no consensus. It is not possible for you to prove through scientific rigor that you are conscious, and presumably you’re human. So how can they possibly be consensus on something as contentious as artificial intelligence?

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        That’s because there’s different levels of such a thing. Way too many people use the term “sentient” (even me) and yet that’s not even what AGI is aiming for. “Sapient” is the right word. And I doubt there’s solid consensus on what and how it occurs within the fields of experts.

        But I’m not an expert, so I wouldn’t pretend to know. I have seen debates between people who do know more, and the fact there’s debates concludes it’s not settled at all.

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          15 hours ago

          People debate about the earth being flat, not a good metric to determined what is “settled”