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    3 days ago

    But in this case there’s already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing?

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      3 days ago

      No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn’t something that needs to exist at all.

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        2 days ago

        I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I’m not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better

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            2 days ago

            Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that’s better is being implemented

            So no luck needed for that at least

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        2 days ago

        I mean I’d rather get crumbs than nothing? lol

        Just seems pragmatic to me

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          Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs.

          Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you.

          This is not about getting.

          This is about what you aim for to begin with.

          If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger.

          You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion.

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            2 days ago

            I’m getting the id system I was hoping for though. I’m getting my crumbs.

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              I’m getting the id system I was hoping for though. I’m getting my crumbs.

              If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here?

              No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing.

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        2 days ago

        Wouldn’t that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing

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            2 days ago

            Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don’t know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo

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        2 days ago

        I’m pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I’d never sent my id to random sites