Yeah, most of the EU prefers their immigrants to have real skills they want, like Medical Doctors, PhD holders, and be on the younger side to provide all the tax revenue they can get.
But they aren’t really in need of low skill workers. And it doesn’t matter where you come from. They got all the neurotic home-grown waiters they need.
But migrant workers have always been a thing. Doing the lowest paying jobs with no security or care. Things like hoeing fields or handpicking tomatoes. Are you willing to travel from one job to another doing backbreaking work for little pay?
Perhaps not. But a PhD is indicative of highly specialized knowledge, like mathematics, engineering, or physics. All knowledge sets that are highly prized by nations around the world.
I have nothing against waiters. The world needs some waiters. I used them as an example. But yeah, a doctorate in sociology will probably improve humanity to a greater extent than being a waiter. And to be honest, even a doctorate in sociology isn’t at the top of the list like a medical doctor would be.
And when it comes to emigration, countries want the best educated people they can get so they can improve their nation and the people’s lives that live there. Like it or not, waiters, taxi drivers, and cashiers, by and large, are not on the desirable list of professions for Western nations looking for immigrants.
The problem with that is, in many cases, being highly educated probably means you came from money, which usually translates to some of the worst people we could possibly be sending.
So, what’s wrong with that? If the worst people are all highly educated people, then there should soon only be the good people left that aren’t as well educated. Right?
Ohh, nononono. You made a fatal assumption that the worst people are the ONLY bad people, and obviously that’s not true. The state is actively borking education because it needs to maintain its supply of sycophants.
I can play 25 different instruments, record and produce music at a professional level, I can direct photography for motion pictures, write television news copy, code in 5(ish) different languages, mill lumber from raw timber, pickle, dry, can, and gernally preserve food, gut and fillet SO MANY different types of fish, build structures out of earthen building material, I can wire photovoltaic panels in series or parallel and am familiar with both 12v and 24v systems, and I can do pretty much anything to a car that doesn’t require a lift or a hoist.
But are any of those special without the little paper that says you can do them?
Edit: And as of last year, I can spin yarn from raw fibers, weave fabrics from that yarn, and sew clothes from pattern from that cloth.
Because school is expensive and time-consuming and I’m already working full time to BARELY get by. I love school (well, I love learning), but it’s simply not an option for me at this point in my life. Obviously I’ve looked into it (and have a fair amount of student debt to prove that I’ve tried more than once), but I always have to make the choice between going to school or eating and paying rent, and I usually want to eat and have a place to live.
We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it’s woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start.
I own a small manufacturing company but god damn the eu acts like they only want major corpos with awful labor practices or poor people that don’t even speak their language to immigrate.
You’re smug now but those corpos will eat you next 💗
Yeah, most of the EU prefers their immigrants to have real skills they want, like Medical Doctors, PhD holders, and be on the younger side to provide all the tax revenue they can get.
But they aren’t really in need of low skill workers. And it doesn’t matter where you come from. They got all the neurotic home-grown waiters they need.
Don’t you take plenty of low skill workers from other regions?
Not if Trump has his way.
But migrant workers have always been a thing. Doing the lowest paying jobs with no security or care. Things like hoeing fields or handpicking tomatoes. Are you willing to travel from one job to another doing backbreaking work for little pay?
Medical Doctors sure, but c’mon. Education level is not indicative of any real life skill
Perhaps not. But a PhD is indicative of highly specialized knowledge, like mathematics, engineering, or physics. All knowledge sets that are highly prized by nations around the world.
Waiters need not apply…
What is your thing against waiters? Do you believe that they contribute less to society than someone who has a PhD in sociology or some bs?
I have nothing against waiters. The world needs some waiters. I used them as an example. But yeah, a doctorate in sociology will probably improve humanity to a greater extent than being a waiter. And to be honest, even a doctorate in sociology isn’t at the top of the list like a medical doctor would be.
And when it comes to emigration, countries want the best educated people they can get so they can improve their nation and the people’s lives that live there. Like it or not, waiters, taxi drivers, and cashiers, by and large, are not on the desirable list of professions for Western nations looking for immigrants.
The problem with that is, in many cases, being highly educated probably means you came from money, which usually translates to some of the worst people we could possibly be sending.
So, what’s wrong with that? If the worst people are all highly educated people, then there should soon only be the good people left that aren’t as well educated. Right?
Ohh, nononono. You made a fatal assumption that the worst people are the ONLY bad people, and obviously that’s not true. The state is actively borking education because it needs to maintain its supply of sycophants.
So why did you claim that “it’s the likely wealthy, highly educated people” that are bad? Choose your words better and don’t make blanket statements.
so which special skills do you have?
I can play 25 different instruments, record and produce music at a professional level, I can direct photography for motion pictures, write television news copy, code in 5(ish) different languages, mill lumber from raw timber, pickle, dry, can, and gernally preserve food, gut and fillet SO MANY different types of fish, build structures out of earthen building material, I can wire photovoltaic panels in series or parallel and am familiar with both 12v and 24v systems, and I can do pretty much anything to a car that doesn’t require a lift or a hoist.
But are any of those special without the little paper that says you can do them?
Edit: And as of last year, I can spin yarn from raw fibers, weave fabrics from that yarn, and sew clothes from pattern from that cloth.
so why dont you get a trade school diploma for one of those?
should be simple enough if you already have experience
the reason they ask for diplomas is because it’s difficult to prove someones competence if they dont have that piece of paper, unfortunately
They give that piece of paper to rapist celebrities like Bill Cosby for no reason than they are famous.
Because school is expensive and time-consuming and I’m already working full time to BARELY get by. I love school (well, I love learning), but it’s simply not an option for me at this point in my life. Obviously I’ve looked into it (and have a fair amount of student debt to prove that I’ve tried more than once), but I always have to make the choice between going to school or eating and paying rent, and I usually want to eat and have a place to live.
agh, that really sucks. i thought trade school was free in all western countries
i know university education isn’t always free, but trade school costing money is news to me and news that doesnt make any sense in my head
We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it’s woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start.
Free education isn’t really a thing here.
i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period
Everything costs money in America. Everything.
I own a small manufacturing company but god damn the eu acts like they only want major corpos with awful labor practices or poor people that don’t even speak their language to immigrate.
You’re smug now but those corpos will eat you next 💗