I tried to reference my husband’s penis as “our penis” to him, and he was all “Absolutely not.”

I was like, “We only have the one between us! We have to share!”

He was unmoved.

Whoa whoa whoa. I said will never be punished, not should never be punished.

And Trump and Putin are both still alive.

Ok ok, hear me out, what if they were harvested neurons from someone everyone wishes had gotten punished for their crimes, but never was? Hitler or Stalin? Or Trump! Or Putin!

When contractors get buckets of money from the government, for their own purposes and maybe for contract legality purposes, they have to allocate/ specify how that money is spent towards each aspect of an effort. So they break a program down into tasks, and assign specific pots of money towards each task with an associated code to enter when you log your time working on those tasks.

So someone in the management of his current program got obsessed with how every single dollar was spent, and decided they needed to triple the amount of charge codes they had to more closely track the work. It sounded annoying as fuck. But it was also annoying as fuck to have to discuss something so trivial for hours.

Oh my gawd, I had to walk away from my husband on his fourth rant of the week about his deputy PM’s obsession with charge numbers. I can’t handle another rant about those fucking charge numbers.

Surgery is irrelevant when talking about the >treatment of 99.999% of transgender teens. Making >the conversation about surgery is falling for right >wing talking points.

That’s fine. It’s an extreme example to illustrate the perspective: most parents will err on the side of “Do no harm.” You are misidentifying the perspective you’re fighting. I am more likely to live in a liberal bubble than a conservative one. It’s just where my mind (and the average parent’s mind?) automatically goes. One method of philosophical reasoning is to start with the extremes and then narrow down to the center/ more likely scenarios that are shades of the extreme… I think that’s common?

The “end game” is presumably that one goes on >HRT to experience the correct puberty. Most trans >men just take testosterone, trans women often take >an anti-androgen (spiro) with their estrogen.

How do they prevent their bodies from producing sexual hormones they don’t want? Removal of the testes/ ovaries? Ablating the adrenal gland ? (pretty sure that’s not a thing … It would have other serious ramifications).

Sexual reassignment surgery and top surgery are types of treatment. Another type is puberty blockers, which I asked about and you responded with talking points instead of information.

Also, what is the end game of puberty blockers? I assumed if you were a trans boy and took them, you got surgery as an adult to remove for example, breast buds so they never develop into breasts. Are you saying people stay on puberty blockers their whole lives?

I’m not trying to push an agenda here. As a parent, I’m honestly trying to understand the ramifications of these treatments. Because as a leftists, asking these questions becomes verboten, as if you hate trans people to question any treatment.

But really (since this is a controversial thread) I just don’t want my child taking a knife to, and hindering the functionality of, any part of their body that was already working just fine. This is especially true for parts that enables an enormous amount of human bonding and the human experience, like sexuality. It feels akin to circumcision/ genital mutilation in my mind, and if that’s what they decide they want as an adult, I wouldn’t stop them. But as their guardian, who safeguards their person for their future self, I would have been willing to divorce my husband over circumcision (at the time we disagreed on it, but we only had daughters). There’s no way most parents without an ideology want to risk long term damage to their child for something uncertain or fluid.

This a really interesting response. Thank you!

If someone takes hormone blockers for several years before deciding to stop, does puberty proceed the same as in a younger person?

Since this is a controversial thread, I feel at liberty to say: while I was never trans, I was pretty ambivalent about my gender as a young person. It wasn’t until after I’d gone through puberty and had multiple years of estrogen (through the natural process of puberty) that I felt “feminine”. Gender kind of partly feels like a process you go through vs an identity.

Least controversial opinion in this thread.

What are puberty blockers if not hormones?

Hmm. I guess I don’t necessarily disagree with your premise… But maybe your value judgment.

Does the suffering humanity inflicts/ experiences outweigh the joy/ love/ happiness humanity causes/ experiences?

And, I guess personally, I don’t weight all life equally. I value more complex life as more valuable. I care about a dolphin more than a stink bug. I think humanity’s ability to evaluate itself and reason is precious and rare, certainly in the history of the planet, potentially in the universe. Even if humanity can never really improve its disposition to be more compassionate or less greedy, why put out the light of a complex mind experiencing and observing itself?

Ultimately, what has value to you?

Don’t worry, only rich communities’ public school were/ are like that in Texas. Schools are funded at the district-level in Texas, so poor communities go to poor schools and wealthy kids go to wealthy schools. If districts get so big that they encompass both, sometimes the wealthy residents try to stage a coup and split the district into wealthy and poor.

Sauce for my claims: https://www.ntdaily.com/opinion/keller-isd-considers-splitting-up-into-two-separate-districts-reveals-systematic-faults-in-public-educational/article_3dcab174-debb-11ef-bb51-5b9a84aaf7fb.html

Sigh. It do be like that thought.

I think it sounds wrong because the letter “U” is pronounced “yew”, and y is not a vowel. You would never say ‘an yurt’ or ‘an yogurt’. If it was prounced “oo”, then “an oo F O” would sound correct.

But as it is, it just sounds wrong. And whether technically correct or not, I reject it!

Tbf, I like this distraction better that bombing Iran.