My brother or sister or enby in Christ, it’s 2026 and this is Lemmy. Stop using political compasses like a 4chan poster. Talking about “the axes” is so childish and unserious I actually read your comment as satire at first.
There is more to political ideology than a 2-axis compass. To explain the differences between Libertarianism and Anarchism to another adult involves talking about the ideas and history, not a chart you saw on 4chan.
Sure you can. Anarchy is not a system of economics. Its just a political philosophy It can entirely coexist with a economic system that also would allow for billionaires to exist.
Market oriented mutualism and individualistic anarchism. Both support the existence of billionaires and are some of the more likely forms of anarchism to exist in a long term stable form.
So yeah… You may want to actually stop while your ahead. “Honey”.
Thats a lot of words just to claim something so wrong.
Anarchy is not a system of economics.
Anarchy / Anarchism actually touches all parts of live as its opposition to domination can be applied in nearly all imaginable contexts. Also historically anarchisms main focus was economic, being extremely anticapitalist, as it spread alongside the rise of capitalism. Many early anarchists focused on tactics such as strikes and workers organizations such as unions. Your statement here is absolutely wrong. Also, if anyone is interested in how a potential anarchist economy could look, here is a link.
Market oriented mutualism and individualistic anarchism. Both support the existence of billionaires and are some of the more likely forms of anarchism to exist in a long term stable form.
Mutalism is about workers owing their places of work and trying build economic power to reach a world where every workplace is owned by the workers that work there. It also focuses on fair business practices and being in solidarity with other workers. All this hinders the concentration of wealth into the hand of a few and tbh, being a billionaire feels pretty anti ethical to Mutalism when you actually engage with that ideology in good faith.
And I also think that is an extremely uncharitable reading of “Individualistic anarchism”. I dont know of any popular and serious advocate, that wants to have billionaires to exist. For more details, here is a pretty thorough examination on individualist anarchism economics.
Anarchocapitalism is an actual thing, though it’s about as anarchistic as nationalsocialism is socialist. It basically means “remove government, make everyone corporate slaves”.
And, tbh, I think it’s a valid criticism of anarchism, that any actual large-scale attempt at anarchism (so any attempt that also involves bad actors) will quite quickly lead to anarchocapitalism.
(Btw, that’s a big issue with pretty much every socioeconomical system: If you only have good actors in the population and everyone is totally behind the idea, pretty much any system can work well. But in real life a large part of the population are bad actors who only have their own benefit in mind. Thus, for any system to work well, it needs to be designed in a way that it still works with a large population of potentially powerful bad actors.
Just as an example: Imagine turbocapitalism, but everyone was altruistic, everyone would value competition over personal gain, everyone would value giving everyone the same fair chance instead of exploiting others. That kind of society could be pretty good. But since capitalism rewards bad actors who exploit others for their personal gain, and we do have lots of people happy to do whatever it takes to get these rewards, it doesn’t work.)
deleted by creator
My brother or sister or enby in Christ, it’s 2026 and this is Lemmy. Stop using political compasses like a 4chan poster. Talking about “the axes” is so childish and unserious I actually read your comment as satire at first.
There is more to political ideology than a 2-axis compass. To explain the differences between Libertarianism and Anarchism to another adult involves talking about the ideas and history, not a chart you saw on 4chan.
deleted by creator
you can’t be an anarchist and a billionaire honey.
Sure you can. Anarchy is not a system of economics. Its just a political philosophy It can entirely coexist with a economic system that also would allow for billionaires to exist.
Market oriented mutualism and individualistic anarchism. Both support the existence of billionaires and are some of the more likely forms of anarchism to exist in a long term stable form.
So yeah… You may want to actually stop while your ahead. “Honey”.
You clearly lack understanding of anarchism. Economic heirarchy is still heirarchy honey.
This is what we get for not teaching kids critical thinking skills in school.
Thats a lot of words just to claim something so wrong.
Anarchy / Anarchism actually touches all parts of live as its opposition to domination can be applied in nearly all imaginable contexts. Also historically anarchisms main focus was economic, being extremely anticapitalist, as it spread alongside the rise of capitalism. Many early anarchists focused on tactics such as strikes and workers organizations such as unions. Your statement here is absolutely wrong. Also, if anyone is interested in how a potential anarchist economy could look, here is a link.
Mutalism is about workers owing their places of work and trying build economic power to reach a world where every workplace is owned by the workers that work there. It also focuses on fair business practices and being in solidarity with other workers. All this hinders the concentration of wealth into the hand of a few and tbh, being a billionaire feels pretty anti ethical to Mutalism when you actually engage with that ideology in good faith.
And I also think that is an extremely uncharitable reading of “Individualistic anarchism”. I dont know of any popular and serious advocate, that wants to have billionaires to exist. For more details, here is a pretty thorough examination on individualist anarchism economics.
You can be an anarcho-capitalist though. Don’t think Gabe falls into this category though.
No, that’s literally just capitalism.
Anarchism and capitalism are antithetical to each other, capitalism is a system of capital ownership that creates economic heirarchy.
Heirarchy and anarchy are mutually exclusive polar opposites.
Didn’t get the joke, did you?
Anarchocapitalism is an actual thing, though it’s about as anarchistic as nationalsocialism is socialist. It basically means “remove government, make everyone corporate slaves”.
And, tbh, I think it’s a valid criticism of anarchism, that any actual large-scale attempt at anarchism (so any attempt that also involves bad actors) will quite quickly lead to anarchocapitalism.
(Btw, that’s a big issue with pretty much every socioeconomical system: If you only have good actors in the population and everyone is totally behind the idea, pretty much any system can work well. But in real life a large part of the population are bad actors who only have their own benefit in mind. Thus, for any system to work well, it needs to be designed in a way that it still works with a large population of potentially powerful bad actors.
Just as an example: Imagine turbocapitalism, but everyone was altruistic, everyone would value competition over personal gain, everyone would value giving everyone the same fair chance instead of exploiting others. That kind of society could be pretty good. But since capitalism rewards bad actors who exploit others for their personal gain, and we do have lots of people happy to do whatever it takes to get these rewards, it doesn’t work.)